[AusNOG] CA Data Retention costs letter to Ministers

[Damian Guppy]

Keep it professional Noel, this is a public list after all.

In terms of how much of the industry they represent, it all depends on how
you are counting, if you are talking in terms of % of subscribers or market
cap, just those who signed the letter yesterday would account for, what,
80-90% of the 'industry'?

In my books that counts as representing the industry.

I think the letter was very reasonable. It is effectively just asking "Hey,
if you are going to pass these laws regardless you should tell us how much
you are willing to pay," I don't see it implying support of the laws
themselves.

Thanks,

--Damian

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net> wrote:

>  The issue there is Comms Alliance purports to represent all the telco
> ISP's - it clearly does not, there should be a myriad of comments in there
> that are not, including disclaimers, that letter says industry agree and
> only have the costs as an issue, Comms alliance has *no right* to even
> imply it represents the industry because it represents a piss ant tiny
> minority of it, or do you suggest we all bend over and suck ... because
> telstra and optus think its cool idea, fuck me, those bastards are just
> going to get a lions share of taxpayers cash for doing what they are
> already doing right now - of course they want this to get free cash.
>
>
>
> On 16/03/2015 17:54, Paul Brooks wrote:
>
> On 16/03/2015 5:09 PM, Noel Butler wrote:
>
> If its the same letter I've read, then yes it does, the only concern
> outlined is costs, not any argument against the Bill itself.
>
>
> And do you really think that other concerns haven't been communicated over
> the past few months?
>
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