[AusNOG] ICANN to bring an end to TLD privacy?
Shane Short
shane at short.id.au
Sun Jun 28 11:45:43 EST 2015
+1
Couldn't have said it better myself. :)
Geordie Guy wrote:
>
> This is perpetuating the "nothing to hide" myth. Privacy is not about
> being protected from any particular form of harassment such as spam,
> it's about the details of the registration being nobody's goddamn
> business.
>
> In particular, this is about this being round #2738 of rights holders
> and other speculative legal action trolls being distressed about not
> having information on tap they ordinarily need to follow due process for.
>
> Australian network operators and the wider technology community need
> to learn what is actually a threat to the ability to operate networks
> and services over the top of them. Spam is not a threat. Anonymity is
> not a threat. Privacy is not a threat. Copyright trolls, the attorney
> general and the TLAs are threats. Wise up.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:06 Mark ZZZ Smith <markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au
> <mailto:markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au>> wrote:
>
> While I understand the desire for privacy, I'm not sure it is as
> much of an issue in this case as people might think it is.
>
> I've had a number of domain names registered to me with this email
> address, my mobile number and my PO BOX(es) since 2002.
>
> I do receive quite a lot of spam to this email address, but then
> again I've been using it quite publicly for many years, including
> on a number of public mailing lists and in open source code that
> also gets published on web pages. So I can't attribute spam I've
> received specifically to my domains' whois information.
>
> I haven't had any issues with having my mobile number listed, and
> I've had the same mobile number since 1995. On very rare occasions
> I've received SMS spam, however I couldn't attribute that to my
> whois details. Neither have I had any issues listing my PO BOX - I
> can only think of a few pieces of mail I've received over the
> years that I definitely could attribute to being sent because of
> my whois information. I would recommend a PO BOX to hide where you
> actually live though, if you're going to publish your mailing
> address publicly (as I have done in a number of Internet Drafts).
>
> It is my understanding that the existing "privacy" service that
> registrars offer is achieved by them actually registering the
> domain name in their name, and then letting you use it i.e., it
> isn't actually your domain name, it is theirs. I think I read a
> while ago about a dispute between a customer and a registrar,
> where the registrar was in the wrong, but they wouldn't let the
> customer have the domain and the customer couldn't get the domain
> because it wasn't actually registered in their name.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark.
>
> *From:* Brad Peczka <brad at bradpeczka.com <mailto:brad at bradpeczka.com>>
> *To:* "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>"
> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 25 June 2015, 15:39
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] ICANN to bring an end to TLD privacy?
>
> At the behest of organisations such as MarkMonitor, ICANN is
> considering a policy change whereby domain holders with sites
> associated to "commercial activity" will no longer be able to
> protect their private information with WHOIS protection services.
>
> The text of the proposal can be found on ICANN's website at
> https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/raa/ppsai-initial-05may15-en.pdf
>
> Something worth noting is that the definition of 'Commercial
> Activity' appears to be quite wide, and will likely encompass a
> number of sole/small traders who operate under their own name,
> rather than a business. I personally feel that the auDA approach
> hits the happy medium - protecting a large amount of information
> from being publicly accessible, while still being able to see what
> entity is in control of a domain name.
>
> If you're interested in commenting, the close date for submissions
> is 7th July... so get typing!
>
> Regards,
> -Brad.
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