[AusNOG] Zettagrid Sydney Offline

[Anthony Bortolotto]

The only guarantee in IT, is that there is no guarantee.

It is how you deal with something when it goes that shows your worth.

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Nick Gale
Sent: Wednesday, 24 June 2015 3:32 PM
To: Chris Legg
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zettagrid Sydney Offline

I would have thought Andromeda would be better. Separate galaxy and all that.

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On 24 June 2015 at 13:27, Chris Legg <cdlegg at iinet.net.au<mailto:cdlegg at iinet.net.au>> wrote:
The moon would be better than nothing, but in reality when the Earth is destroyed the moon probably won't be far behind it.
Stop penny-pinching and get proper redundancy by building a data centre on Alpha Centauri B!

On 24/06/2015 1:09 PM, Shane Short wrote:
What about on different continents? There could be some kind of catastrophic act of god that wipes out both facilities? Oh.. separate hemispheres too, to protect you against freak storm events..

Maybe we should co-lo on the moon too, incase there's some kind of catastrophic earth event.. but even then we still have single point of flares (SPoF) to contend with.. mmm

At some point you play the odds. How many times has the aforementioned "global fuckup" happened?

Paul Brooks wrote:
On 24/06/2015 2:25 PM, Tim Raphael wrote:

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org<mailto:newton at atdot.dotat.org>> wrote:


If you aren't provider-diverse, you aren't diverse.

  - mark


And ideally location diverse too for the purposes of DR. The latency between Sydney and Melbourne for a lot of our customers is so negligible at the application layer that they buy two vDCs, one in each of our Availability Zones and connect them together via our MPLS services. Each zone in our case is completely independent at the infrastructure level.

Are the zones monitored by independent NOCs, and operated by completely diverse NOC engineers so the same finger-fumble or automated provisioning tool can't be applied to configs in both locations?

I've seen someone press 'commit' to a router config script with a typo  that proceeded to take down approx. 45 routers across 20-something countries. Each country was completely independent at the infrastructure level then, too.

+1 What Mark said above. If your multiple diverse services stem ultimately from the same boardroom table, you aren't diverse.

Paul.

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