[AusNOG] Zettagrid Sydney Offline

Chris Legg cdlegg at iinet.net.au
Wed Jun 24 15:40:51 EST 2015


I went all out and co-lo'd on Earth but in an alternate universe. The 
ping on a quantum router is great, but having to pay tax in multiple 
dimensions puts a strain on the budget.

On 24/06/2015 1:33 PM, Harry Chan wrote:
>
> What about the latency? 10 light years? We’d be forever waiting for it 
> to return the packets.
>
> -- 
>
> Harry Chan
>
> *Query Foundry* | Sydney, Australia
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> *From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *Nick Gale
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 June 2015 3:32 PM
> *To:* Chris Legg
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Zettagrid Sydney Offline
>
> I would have thought Andromeda would be better. Separate galaxy and 
> all that.
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> On 24 June 2015 at 13:27, Chris Legg <cdlegg at iinet.net.au 
> <mailto:cdlegg at iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>
>     The moon would be better than nothing, but in reality when the
>     Earth is destroyed the moon probably won't be far behind it.
>     Stop penny-pinching and get proper redundancy by building a data
>     centre on Alpha Centauri B!
>
>     On 24/06/2015 1:09 PM, Shane Short wrote:
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>         What about on different continents? There could be some kind
>         of catastrophic act of god that wipes out both facilities?
>         Oh.. separate hemispheres too, to protect you against freak
>         storm events..
>
>         Maybe we should co-lo on the moon too, incase there's some
>         kind of catastrophic earth event.. but even then we still have
>         single point of flares (SPoF) to contend with.. mmm
>
>         At some point you play the odds. How many times has the
>         aforementioned "global fuckup" happened?
>
>         Paul Brooks wrote:
>
>             On 24/06/2015 2:25 PM, Tim Raphael wrote:
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>                 On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Mark Newton
>                 <newton at atdot.dotat.org
>                 <mailto:newton at atdot.dotat.org>> wrote:
>
>
>
>                     If you aren't provider-diverse, you aren't diverse.
>
>                       - mark
>
>                 And ideally location diverse too for the purposes of
>                 DR. The latency between Sydney and Melbourne for a lot
>                 of our customers is so negligible at the application
>                 layer that they buy two vDCs, one in each of our
>                 Availability Zones and connect them together via our
>                 MPLS services. Each zone in our case is completely
>                 independent at the infrastructure level.
>
>
>             Are the zones monitored by independent NOCs, and operated
>             by completely diverse NOC engineers so the same
>             finger-fumble or automated provisioning tool can't be
>             applied to configs in both locations?
>
>             I've seen someone press 'commit' to a router config script
>             with a typo  that proceeded to take down approx. 45
>             routers across 20-something countries. Each country was
>             completely independent at the infrastructure level then, too.
>
>             +1 What Mark said above. If your multiple diverse services
>             stem ultimately from the same boardroom table, you aren't
>             diverse.
>
>             Paul.
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