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I went all out and co-lo'd on Earth but in an alternate universe.
The ping on a quantum router is great, but having to pay tax in
multiple dimensions puts a strain on the budget.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/06/2015 1:33 PM, Harry Chan
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about the latency? 10 light years? We’d be forever waiting
for it to return the packets.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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AusNOG [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Nick Gale<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 24 June 2015 3:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Legg<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Zettagrid Sydney Offline<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would have thought Andromeda would be
better. Separate galaxy and all that.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span
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T:</span></b><span
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9425 5029</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 24 June 2015 at 13:27, Chris Legg
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<p class="MsoNormal">The moon would be better than
nothing, but in reality when the Earth is destroyed
the moon probably won't be far behind it.<br>
Stop penny-pinching and get proper redundancy by
building a data centre on Alpha Centauri B!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What about on different
continents? There could be some kind of
catastrophic act of god that wipes out both
facilities? Oh.. separate hemispheres too, to
protect you against freak storm events..<br>
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Maybe we should co-lo on the moon too, incase
there's some kind of catastrophic earth event..
but even then we still have single point of
flares (SPoF) to contend with.. mmm<br>
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At some point you play the odds. How many times
has the aforementioned "global fuckup" happened?<br>
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Paul Brooks wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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If you aren't provider-diverse, you
aren't diverse.<br>
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- mark</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And ideally
location diverse too for the
purposes of DR. The latency between
Sydney and Melbourne for a lot of
our customers is so negligible at
the application layer that they buy
two vDCs, one in each of our
Availability Zones and connect them
together via our MPLS services. Each
zone in our case is completely
independent at the infrastructure
level.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Are the zones monitored by independent NOCs,
and operated by completely diverse NOC
engineers so the same finger-fumble or
automated provisioning tool can't be applied
to configs in both locations?<br>
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I've seen someone press 'commit' to a router
config script with a typo that proceeded to
take down approx. 45 routers across
20-something countries. Each country was
completely independent at the infrastructure
level then, too.<br>
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+1 What Mark said above. If your multiple
diverse services stem ultimately from the same
boardroom table, you aren't diverse.<br>
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Paul.<o:p></o:p></p>
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