[AusNOG] Zettagrid Sydney Offline
Nick Gale
nickgale at gmail.com
Wed Jun 24 15:31:32 EST 2015
I would have thought Andromeda would be better. Separate galaxy and all
that.
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On 24 June 2015 at 13:27, Chris Legg <cdlegg at iinet.net.au> wrote:
> The moon would be better than nothing, but in reality when the Earth is
> destroyed the moon probably won't be far behind it.
> Stop penny-pinching and get proper redundancy by building a data centre on
> Alpha Centauri B!
>
>
> On 24/06/2015 1:09 PM, Shane Short wrote:
>
> What about on different continents? There could be some kind of
> catastrophic act of god that wipes out both facilities? Oh.. separate
> hemispheres too, to protect you against freak storm events..
>
> Maybe we should co-lo on the moon too, incase there's some kind of
> catastrophic earth event.. but even then we still have single point of
> flares (SPoF) to contend with.. mmm
>
> At some point you play the odds. How many times has the aforementioned
> "global fuckup" happened?
>
> Paul Brooks wrote:
>
> On 24/06/2015 2:25 PM, Tim Raphael wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> If you aren't provider-diverse, you aren't diverse.
>>
>> - mark
>>
>>
> And ideally location diverse too for the purposes of DR. The latency
> between Sydney and Melbourne for a lot of our customers is so negligible at
> the application layer that they buy two vDCs, one in each of our
> Availability Zones and connect them together via our MPLS services. Each
> zone in our case is completely independent at the infrastructure level.
>
>
> Are the zones monitored by independent NOCs, and operated by completely
> diverse NOC engineers so the same finger-fumble or automated provisioning
> tool can't be applied to configs in both locations?
>
> I've seen someone press 'commit' to a router config script with a typo
> that proceeded to take down approx. 45 routers across 20-something
> countries. Each country was completely independent at the infrastructure
> level then, too.
>
> +1 What Mark said above. If your multiple diverse services stem ultimately
> from the same boardroom table, you aren't diverse.
>
> Paul.
>
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