<div dir="ltr">I would have thought Andromeda would be better. Separate galaxy and all that.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">------------------------------------------------<br><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.7315px;border-collapse:collapse"><font size="2" face="Arial"><b>Nick Gale</b></font></span><div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.7315px;border-collapse:collapse"><font size="2" face="Arial"><b><br>T:</b> (08) 9425 5029<b><br></b></font></span></div><div><b style="font-size:small;font-family:Arial">M: </b><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:small">0418 989 020</span><b style="font-size:small;font-family:Arial"> </b></div><div><b style="font-size:small;font-family:Arial">E:</b><font face="Arial" size="2"> <a href="mailto:nickgale@gmail.com" target="_blank">nickgale@gmail.com</a></font></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.7315px;border-collapse:collapse"><font size="4" color="#008000" face="Webdings"><br>P</font><font size="2" color="#008000" face="Arial"> Please consider the environment before you print this email.</font> </span></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 June 2015 at 13:27, Chris Legg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cdlegg@iinet.net.au" target="_blank">cdlegg@iinet.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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The moon would be better than nothing, but in reality when the Earth
is destroyed the moon probably won't be far behind it.<br>
Stop penny-pinching and get proper redundancy by building a data
centre on Alpha Centauri B!<div><div class="h5"><br>
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What about on different continents? There could be some kind of
catastrophic act of god that wipes out both facilities? Oh..
separate hemispheres too, to protect you against freak storm
events..<br>
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Maybe we should co-lo on the moon too, incase there's some kind of
catastrophic earth event.. but even then we still have single
point of flares (SPoF) to contend with.. mmm<br>
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At some point you play the odds. How many times has the
aforementioned "global fuckup" happened?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:09 PM,
Mark Newton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:newton@atdot.dotat.org" target="_blank">newton@atdot.dotat.org</a>></span>
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If you aren't provider-diverse, you aren't diverse.<br>
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<div>And ideally location diverse too for the purposes
of DR. The latency between Sydney and Melbourne for a
lot of our customers is so negligible at the
application layer that they buy two vDCs, one in each
of our Availability Zones and connect them together
via our MPLS services. Each zone in our case is
completely independent at the infrastructure level.</div>
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Are the zones monitored by independent NOCs, and operated by
completely diverse NOC engineers so the same finger-fumble or
automated provisioning tool can't be applied to configs in both
locations?<br>
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I've seen someone press 'commit' to a router config script with
a typo that proceeded to take down approx. 45 routers across
20-something countries. Each country was completely independent
at the infrastructure level then, too.<br>
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+1 What Mark said above. If your multiple diverse services stem
ultimately from the same boardroom table, you aren't diverse.<br>
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Paul.<br>
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