[AusNOG] Data Retention Workshop - Tuesday 28th July

[Andrew Yager]

Hi Richard,

Sorry for not replying yesterday; we were in the thick of it when you
emailed in.

Overall, the event went well. Those that were in attendance can offer their
own unbiased opinion - but certainly the feedback I had was that it was
very positive and useful in terms of understanding the DR legislation and
how to develop DRIPs.

We took some videos at the event yesterday which we'll be making available
in the next day or so, including David's presentation and some other bits
and pieces. We'll also put together a summary of the workshop where we
looked at:

   - An MPLS WAN network
   - A hosted e-mail service
   - A MDU apartment complex/CGN NAT scenario

and dragged out the relevant services, and highlighted some of the common
data you would need to collect for these relevant services; and also
pointing out some of the common areas where people might need to make
system changes to get there. It may take me a little while to get through
documenting these back as I do need to do some of my day job™ every now and
then :)

Once again, a big thank you to everyone who was able to attend and
contribute to the discussion, and a big thank you to Dell for hosting us
yesterday and helping to cover a substantial portion of the cost of running
the event. Can I also highly recommend the WAIA event being run next week
in a similar fashion that will also be online streamed.

One area that I think can be explored more… We spent a fair bit of time
yesterday discussing the edge cases of what is or is not a CSP. David and
the people in the room pointed out a number of scenarios where normal
businesses may in fact be Carriage Service Providers, that we would not
normally have considered as such - and I think that around the small
provider end of the world there is a number of small companies and
providers that are not sure if they are technically a CSP as far as the
law. One of the suggestions was that it may be beneficial for one or more
of the industry associations to put together a "guide" on how to determine
if you are a CSP - i.e. "if you do XXX,… you are a CSP" "if you do YYY, you
are probably a CSP", "if you do ZZZ you need to seek legal advice as to
whether you are or are not a CSP".

Any questions, bounce back on list - I'm sure anyone there would be more
than happy to contribute back into the discussion on list.

Thanks,
Andrew


On 28 July 2015 at 12:20, Richard Ham - Lists <rich-lists at edit-co.com>
wrote:

> Hi Andrew, List,
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> Any chance we can get some feedback on how the event is going and what
> major points are being discussed for those who couldn’t join in?
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> With Regards,
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> Richard
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Andrew
> Yager
> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 July 2015 12:39 PM
> *To:* Geordie Guy
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Data Retention Workshop - Tuesday 28th July
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> I suspect that everyone on this list is well aware of the desire to do
> this "cheaply" with minimum "rights invasion" and aware that the
> legislation is dumb.
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>
> -SNIP-
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