[AusNOG] Copyright Negotiations with ISPs

[Matt Palmer]

I suspect Skeeve's point is that Telco != ISP.

> Telstra, iiNet, Optus, Voda, AAPT, M2, Macquarie Telecom, Pivotel.  Thats 8 of 13.

Telco, ISP, Telco, Telco, Telco, NFI, Telco, Telco.

That's 1 of 13.

- Matt

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 02:08:34AM +0000, Brad Gould wrote:
> 13 Directors.
> 
> Telstra, iiNet, Optus, Voda, AAPT, M2, Macquarie Telecom, Pivotel.  Thats 8 of 13.  That has to cover the vast majority of customers in this country.  (TPG isnt a member).
> 
> Then there is NBNCo.
> 
> After that there is Ericsson and Alcatel-Lucent, both Vendors.
> 
> Chairman - http://www.itnews.com.au/News/160318,former-minister-to-chair-comms-alliance.aspx
> 
> I struggle to see how the alignment of the Board could be anything other than representing the ISP/Telco industry.
> 
> Brad
> 
> 
> 
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
> Sent: Monday, 16 February 2015 11:13
> To: Ross Wheeler
> Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Copyright Negotiations with ISPs
> 
> The directors don't seem very representative of ISPs at all.
> 
> 
> ...Skeeve
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> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Ross Wheeler <ausnog at rossw.net<mailto:ausnog at rossw.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2015, Alexander Neilson wrote:
> http://www.commsalliance.com.au/about-us/membership/current-members
> 
> Yup, I see almost a dozen ISPs in that list.
> Given official numbers claim between 600-1000 ISPs in Australia, that makes it a very "industry representative" view. </sarcasm>
> 
> (Side note: it's never stopped non-representative groups claiming to be "industry representative bodies" before, question is - what (if anything) is to be done about it, and who's going to do it?)
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