[AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns

Sun Feb 15 18:56:08 EST 2015

I required therapy to try to forget my first Token ring install..  and the multitude of visits required afterwards to fix “issues”. L

Ahh, those were the days – a smattering of hardware and software vendors, all selling different networking gear and protocols that quite deliberately didn’t interconnect, all of which was cutting edge at the time… and most of it was not quite ready for production yet. 

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Serge Burjak
Sent: Sunday, 15 February 2015 12:54 PM
To: Peter Betyounan
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns

I recall my first Token Ring Install...

On 15 February 2015 at 14:32, Peter Betyounan <peter at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:

Amiga 500 was my choice on machine back then :) 

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM, James Braunegg <james.braunegg at micron21.com> wrote:

I could only afford Tape on the C64 and VIC20… in fact my C64 is still at my parents place under the house somewhere.

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From: Damien Gardner Jnr [mailto:rendrag at rendrag.net] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:38 PM
To: James Braunegg
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns

BNC's??  Lol, you youngens :-p  We had BBC Micros running on Econet, backed into an Apricot with a very hacked together interface to an external hard disk.

Speaking of, did anyone else have a hard disk on their C64?  I've never met anyone else that had one!  (2MB, damned thing was $2k in 1992 - that was a LOT of saving of busking money!)

On 15 February 2015 at 11:25, James Braunegg <james.braunegg at micron21.com> wrote:

Talking of back in the days high school was so much fun when someone removed the BNC terminator and nobody could work out why the network went down…. ;)

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From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 11:16 AM
To: Mark Currie
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net

Subject: Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns

I was quite surprised, while tinkering in the garage yesterday, to find the AM7910PC FSK chip from my original hand-built 300-baud modem!  (And the associated array of Z80's, 8255's, Z8420's, Z8440's, etc).  Still had the jumper soldered to the chip for Bell 103 originator loopback - last time I used it, the closest BBS was two calling zones away at STD rates ;)  (Ahh, remember the $3 all night call cap back in the 90's? They were great!)

On 15 February 2015 at 10:47, Mark Currie <MCurrie at laserfast.com.au> wrote:

I remember hooking up 10+ machines in the workshop on Netware 2 and running nsnipes (the first realtime multiuser network game – Novell Snipes) to load test the equipment. 

Actually some say Netware was created to run Snipes multiuser.

Mark Currie

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Joshua D'Alton
Sent: Friday, 13 February 2015 8:45 PM
To: Alan Maher
Cc: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns

How about ye olde Friday afternoon Quake session enabler,  aka 10Base2, where particular coax cables would only work between specific identical NICs in identical PCs, and where a t junction terminator would actually allow a segment only 1M long to work.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Alan Maher <alanmaher at gmail.com> wrote:

Commodore 64, Geoworks, 300 bps modem (homemade) & dialling into a bulletin
board.................then thinking -    is that all there is?
After that we lived in a shoebox at the bottom of the garden and ate a lump of coal
before walking 20 miles to school.
Luxury !!!

:-D

On 13/02/2015 9:08 p.m., Julien Goodwin wrote:

On 13/02/15 16:38, Ross Wheeler wrote:

What age counts as a young un?

If you can't remember when the BGP table was less than 50K routes.

I think you're in trouble if you say "that's me" to any of these!

If you don't know what SLIRP was.
If you don't remember when you could fit netscape on a floppy.

I have an *official* copy of 1.X Netscape (I think 1.1 or 1.2) for Win
3.X, and that's two floppies.

If you don't remember webcrawler or Trumpet Winsock.
If you don't know what Fidonet was
If you have no idea what an AM7910 was or would be used for.
If you never owned at least one of:
  *  Microbee
  *  Trash80
  *  SCAMP

* PDP / VAX [1]
* Commodore 64
* Apple II

If you never heard of Netware, Banyan Vines or LANtastic

or "Phone Net" AppleTalk (Anyone still have ethertalk routers running?)

And the "oh noes! Dual stack" people make you laugh because you remember
running all the above in one network, at the same time.

If you don't recognise a BNC-T and/or a BNC 50R terminator
If you can't identify  g=c800:5
If you don't know what an NEC-V20 was

1: Nothing sucks like a VAX
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