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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I required therapy to try to forget my first Token ring install.. and the multitude of visits required afterwards to fix “issues”. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>L</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ahh, those were the days – a smattering of hardware and software vendors, all selling different networking gear and protocols that quite deliberately didn’t interconnect, all of which was cutting edge at the time… and most of it was not quite ready for production yet. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Serge Burjak<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 15 February 2015 12:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> Peter Betyounan<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I recall my first Token Ring Install...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 15 February 2015 at 14:32, Peter Betyounan <<a href="mailto:peter@serversaustralia.com.au" target="_blank">peter@serversaustralia.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Amiga 500 was my choice on machine back then :) <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM, James Braunegg <<a href="mailto:james.braunegg@micron21.com" target="_blank">james.braunegg@micron21.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I could only afford Tape on the C64 and VIC20… in fact my C64 is still at my parents place under the house somewhere.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kindest Regards </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>James Braunegg<br></span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>P:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="tel:1300%20769%20972" target="_blank">1300 769 972</a> | <b>M:</b> <a href="tel:0488%20997%20207" target="_blank">0488 997 207</a> | <b>D:</b> <a href="tel:%2803%29%209751%207616" target="_blank">(03) 9751 7616</a></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>E:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:james.braunegg@micron21.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>james.braunegg@micron21.com</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> | <b>ABN:</b> 12 109 977 666 <br><b>W:</b> <a href="http://www.micron21.com/ddos-protection" target="_blank"><span style='color:black'>www.micron21.com/ddos-protection</span></a> <b>T:</b> @micron21</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br><img border=0 width=250 height=39 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D04937.B398AA20" alt="Description: Description: Description: Description: M21.jpg"><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>This message is intended for the addressee named above. It may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you must not use, copy, distribute or disclose it to anyone other than the addressee. If you have received this message in error please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Damien Gardner Jnr [mailto:<a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net" target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> James Braunegg<br><b>Cc:</b> Mark Currie; <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>BNC's?? Lol, you youngens :-p We had BBC Micros running on Econet, backed into an Apricot with a very hacked together interface to an external hard disk.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Speaking of, did anyone else have a hard disk on their C64? I've never met anyone else that had one! (2MB, damned thing was $2k in 1992 - that was a LOT of saving of busking money!)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>On 15 February 2015 at 11:25, James Braunegg <<a href="mailto:james.braunegg@micron21.com" target="_blank">james.braunegg@micron21.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Talking of back in the days high school was so much fun when someone removed the BNC terminator and nobody could work out why the network went down…. ;)</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kindest Regards</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>James Braunegg<br></span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>P:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="tel:1300%20769%20972" target="_blank">1300 769 972</a> | <b>M:</b> <a href="tel:0488%20997%20207" target="_blank">0488 997 207</a> | <b>D:</b> <a href="tel:%2803%29%209751%207616" target="_blank">(03) 9751 7616</a></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>E:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:james.braunegg@micron21.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>james.braunegg@micron21.com</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> | <b>ABN:</b> 12 109 977 666 <br><b>W:</b> <a href="http://www.melbournedarkfibre.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:black'>www.melbournedarkfibre.com</span></a> <b>T:</b> @micron21</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br><img border=0 width=250 height=39 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D04937.B398AA20" alt="Description: Description: Description: Description: M21.jpg"></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>This message is intended for the addressee named above. It may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you must not use, copy, distribute or disclose it to anyone other than the addressee. If you have received this message in error please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Damien Gardner Jnr<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 15, 2015 11:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mark Currie<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>I was quite surprised, while tinkering in the garage yesterday, to find the AM7910PC FSK chip from my original hand-built 300-baud modem! (And the associated array of Z80's, 8255's, Z8420's, Z8440's, etc). Still had the jumper soldered to the chip for Bell 103 originator loopback - last time I used it, the closest BBS was two calling zones away at STD rates ;) (Ahh, remember the $3 all night call cap back in the 90's? They were great!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>On 15 February 2015 at 10:47, Mark Currie <<a href="mailto:MCurrie@laserfast.com.au" target="_blank">MCurrie@laserfast.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I remember hooking up 10+ machines in the workshop on Netware 2 and running nsnipes (the first realtime multiuser network game – Novell Snipes) to load test the equipment. </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Actually some say Netware was created to run Snipes multiuser.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark Currie</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a name="14b8b8345174eff6_14b8aeab2796cc4d_14b8aa"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></a><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua D'Alton<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 13 February 2015 8:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> Alan Maher<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>How about ye olde Friday afternoon Quake session enabler, aka 10Base2, where particular coax cables would only work between specific identical NICs in identical PCs, and where a t junction terminator would actually allow a segment only 1M long to work.<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Alan Maher <<a href="mailto:alanmaher@gmail.com" target="_blank">alanmaher@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Commodore 64, Geoworks, 300 bps modem (homemade) & dialling into a bulletin<br>board.................then thinking - is that all there is?<br>After that we lived in a shoebox at the bottom of the garden and ate a lump of coal<br>before walking 20 miles to school.<br>Luxury !!!<br><br>:-D<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>On 13/02/2015 9:08 p.m., Julien Goodwin wrote:<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On 13/02/15 16:38, Ross Wheeler wrote:<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>What age counts as a young un?<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If you can't remember when the BGP table was less than 50K routes.<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I think you're in trouble if you say "that's me" to any of these!<br><br>If you don't know what SLIRP was.<br>If you don't remember when you could fit netscape on a floppy.<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I have an *official* copy of 1.X Netscape (I think 1.1 or 1.2) for Win<br>3.X, and that's two floppies.<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If you don't remember webcrawler or Trumpet Winsock.<br>If you don't know what Fidonet was<br>If you have no idea what an AM7910 was or would be used for.<br>If you never owned at least one of:<br> * Microbee<br> * Trash80<br> * SCAMP<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>* PDP / VAX [1]<br>* Commodore 64<br>* Apple II<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If you never heard of Netware, Banyan Vines or LANtastic<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>or "Phone Net" AppleTalk (Anyone still have ethertalk routers running?)<br><br>And the "oh noes! 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