[AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns

[Ramsay, Paul]

42 is a good number, it is the "Answer to The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrases_from_The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy#Answer_to_the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life.2C_the_Universe.2C_and_Everything_.2842.29>", reference: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy> :)

mmm...I come from the days of valves and relays... ;) Have a great weekend everyone

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of ausnog at worley.org.au
Sent: Friday, 13 February 2015 4:17 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns

...&L0
(for those that started their ISP in their garage, and who wanted to get *some sleep. )

I am sure some of us can still whistle those tones pitch perfect. Those were days when running an ISP was fun.

Old? What? Who me >>42?  That's not old... :P

:Darren

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matt Perkins
Sent: Friday, 13 February 2015 3:53 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns

AT&c1&d1&e0x3s0=1&w

And the correct term is Getty defs BTW.

Oh s* im old.

Matt.


On 13/02/2015 3:42 pm, Mark Dignam wrote:
Old Hand = can remember Dialup modem setup strings.. :)

Really Old Hand = can remember plugging said strings into Unix getty configs.

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Hood
Sent: Friday, 13 February 2015 12:21 PM
To: Jacob Gardiner
Cc: AUSNOG
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns


Seems like it.

What age counts as a young un?
On 13/02/2015 3:08 pm, "Jacob Gardiner" <jacob at jacobgardiner.com<mailto:jacob at jacobgardiner.com>> wrote:
Busy Friday, Karl?

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On 13 February 2015 at 2:43:15 pm, Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au<mailto:kauer at biplane.com.au>) wrote:
There's nothing new under the sun, so no doubt this has been suggested
before.

It seems to me that AusNOG regularly has problems with some "Young Un"
not knowing "The Rules", with the inevitable result that a goodly
proportion of the "Old Hands" get their knickers in a twist, the "young
'uns" get frustrated, the quality of "genteel intercourse" drops with an
audible thud, and far too many passive-aggressive "double quotes" get
used.

When someone new bombs into the hitherto placid pool of AusNOG, the
splash (and sometimes the scream) is usually pretty audible. It's
quickly obvious to all that there's a new face around, a fresh face, one
with its eyes on the prize, and not at all on the Ways of AusNOG.

My suggestion is this. If you are an Old Hand, and you find your nether
regions being cramped in unpleasant ways, and upon inspection discover
that you knickers are, in fact, twisted, why not contact the offending
Young Un off-list and offer your services as a Mentor? You would be
doing everyone a favour, including yourself. The nasty, noisy
pitter-patter of little feet would stop, the Young Un concerned would
get further, faster (and might avoid a few embarrassing and costly
mistakes), and AusNOG could remain the pristine place of quiet worship
it has always been. You as Mentor would have the satisfaction of helping
a lot of people and probably learning a thing or two yourself.

In due course said Young Un, now trained in the Way of AusNOG, could
take his or her place amongst the elite, accrete suitable amounts of
crustiness and possibly even (obviously many, many, many years hence)
mentor someone in turn, thus paying off their huge karmic debt.

Just a thought.

Regards, K.

PS: If I knew anything I'd mentor someone.

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