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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext;background:white">42 is a good number, it is the
</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext;background:white">"</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrases_from_The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy#Answer_to_the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life.2C_the_Universe.2C_and_Everything_.2842.29" title="Phrases from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"><span style="color:windowtext;background:white;text-decoration:none">Answer
to The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext;background:white">", reference:
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy" title="The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy</span></a></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext;background:white"> </span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:windowtext;background:white">J</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext;background:white">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext;background:white">mmm…I come from the days of valves and relays… ;) Have a great weekend everyone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>ausnog@worley.org.au<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 13 February 2015 4:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">…&L0<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(for those that started their ISP in their garage, and who wanted to get *some sleep. )<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I am sure some of us can still whistle those tones pitch perfect. Those were days when running an ISP was fun.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Old? What? Who me >>42? That’s not old… :P<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">:Darren<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matt Perkins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 13 February 2015 3:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">AT&c1&d1&e0x3s0=1&w<br>
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And the correct term is Getty defs BTW.<br>
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Oh s* im old. <br>
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Matt.<br>
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On 13/02/2015 3:42 pm, Mark Dignam wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Old Hand = can remember Dialup modem setup strings..
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Really Old Hand = can remember plugging said strings into Unix getty configs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Hood<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 13 February 2015 12:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jacob Gardiner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> AUSNOG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Seems like it. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>What age counts as a young un? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 13/02/2015 3:08 pm, "Jacob Gardiner" <<a href="mailto:jacob@jacobgardiner.com">jacob@jacobgardiner.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Busy Friday, Karl?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">-- <br>
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<p>On 13 February 2015 at 2:43:15 pm, Karl Auer (<a href="mailto:kauer@biplane.com.au" target="_blank">kauer@biplane.com.au</a>) wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There's nothing new under the sun, so no doubt this has been suggested
<br>
before. <br>
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It seems to me that AusNOG regularly has problems with some "Young Un" <br>
not knowing "The Rules", with the inevitable result that a goodly <br>
proportion of the "Old Hands" get their knickers in a twist, the "young <br>
'uns" get frustrated, the quality of "genteel intercourse" drops with an <br>
audible thud, and far too many passive-aggressive "double quotes" get <br>
used. <br>
<br>
When someone new bombs into the hitherto placid pool of AusNOG, the <br>
splash (and sometimes the scream) is usually pretty audible. It's <br>
quickly obvious to all that there's a new face around, a fresh face, one <br>
with its eyes on the prize, and not at all on the Ways of AusNOG. <br>
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My suggestion is this. If you are an Old Hand, and you find your nether <br>
regions being cramped in unpleasant ways, and upon inspection discover <br>
that you knickers are, in fact, twisted, why not contact the offending <br>
Young Un off-list and offer your services as a Mentor? You would be <br>
doing everyone a favour, including yourself. The nasty, noisy <br>
pitter-patter of little feet would stop, the Young Un concerned would <br>
get further, faster (and might avoid a few embarrassing and costly <br>
mistakes), and AusNOG could remain the pristine place of quiet worship <br>
it has always been. You as Mentor would have the satisfaction of helping <br>
a lot of people and probably learning a thing or two yourself. <br>
<br>
In due course said Young Un, now trained in the Way of AusNOG, could <br>
take his or her place amongst the elite, accrete suitable amounts of <br>
crustiness and possibly even (obviously many, many, many years hence) <br>
mentor someone in turn, thus paying off their huge karmic debt. <br>
<br>
Just a thought. <br>
<br>
Regards, K. <br>
<br>
PS: If I knew anything I'd mentor someone. <br>
<br>
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