[AusNOG] Pipe hiccup in Melbourne

[Phill Groom]

Swept tees and remote control cameras can save a carrier $$ and reduce the
need for footpaths to be dug up in some circumstances (at least it did for
one I worked with in a previous life).

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Mark Tees <marktees at gmail.com> wrote:

> I guess I shouldn't specifically be pointing at communications cable
> pipes but more at utilities in the street in general.
>
> If a sizeable tunnel was built on either side of roads where all the
> common utilities go, would that prevent much extra civil work in terms
> of drilling or roads getting torn up? Also, would it equate to any
> savings in road repairs later on down the track? Would it mean higher
> costs because contractors have to be further qualified to work around
> pipes for gas/power also?
>
> I guess I just notice the road getting torn up so often in
> Sydney/Melbourne that I wonder about these things.
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Sam Silvester <sam.silvester at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Mark Tees <marktees at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Surely, councils could benefit by some sort of shared tunnel renting
> >> scheme? I know in Sydney city there is tunnel space rented from Telstra
> etc.
> >>
> >> I know, I know, fairy land thoughts thinking that people might be able
> to
> >> work together to avoid additional work.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I've seen a few attempts at this (e.g. councils either installing pit and
> > pipe with the intention of it being used by other carriers / businesses,
> or
> > allowing their own to be used). In my experience it's is rare for it to
> be
> > the 'first option' however - either due to the costs and process
> involved,
> > or limited space in the duct in question, or it just not being in a
> useful
> > location. YMMV as always.
> >
> > I'm aware of at least a couple of data centres where shared lead in pits
> are
> > installed to minimise the number of building entries needing to be built,
> > but it really comes down to the design of the facility and if they are
> > aiming to make 3rd party carriers welcome or not :)
> >
> > Also, co-builds are certainly a thing also to split the cost of a large
> > civils build.
> >
> > So to a point, your suggestion is actually happening. You'd possibly be
> > surprised at how much cooperation does happen, but it isn't always
> > necessarily that visible.
> >
> > Sam
> >
> >
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>
> Mark L. Tees
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