[AusNOG] NBN FTTN And Migrations and End User Equipment

[Damien Gardner Jnr]

That's interesting, and not what Telstra (and the NBN techs doing the
installs) are telling end users.  When my NBN install was done, the tech
said he doubted my Draytek Vigor 130 would be approved, so likely wouldn't
work.  I flashed it to a vectoring-enabled firmware, and it worked for
three hours, then sync disappeared.  Called my Telstra Pilot manager to ask
what was going on, and he said the Node had likely detected the unsupported
modem, and shut the port down. - And that Telstra could not query it with
NBN unless I had the Telstra-supplied modem plugged in.  So I sat on my
hands for three weeks, and put up with the Telstra DSL that drops out every
5 minutes ;)

That said, while very plastic, the Telstra TG799vac has been surprisingly
rock solid, and syncs at 60/18 where the Draytek synced at 52/13, so I'm
living with EOIP over PPTP to the DC via NAT, and it's working well :)

On 14 December 2015 at 18:55, Matt Carter <matt.carter at iseek.com.au> wrote:

> Certification applies to the access seeker, not the CPE. If you choose to
> initially certify 1 CPE you do not need to recertify when you want to
> introduce a new CPE to the mix. If you want to use NBN’s VDSL modems from
> their lab for your certification and then use a tin can and string in the
> real world, that’s up to you. Repeat after me. The CPE is not under
> certification, the access seeker is.
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> This is great if the entity ordering the AVC is the entity that was
> certified at NBN’s facility. The disconnect comes when the “access seeker”
> that was certified by NBN for FTTN in the lab (Eg a wholesaler) is not the
> entity that is ultimately driving the order or providing the EU with a CPE
> (Eg downstream RSP ) . In this scenario communication as to what CPEs would
> be supported is essential.
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Nathan
> Brookfield
> *Sent:* Monday, 14 December 2015 5:42 PM
> *To:* Joseph Goldman; Bradley Amm
> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] NBN FTTN And Migrations and End User Equipment
>
>
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> VDSL modem's need to be certified and from what I've heard from NBN and
> the trials, each ISP is required to test and prove the VDSL modem they
> intend on supply so I don't think this is going to be a case of 'Buy the
> modem that is right for the job'.
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> I've even heard of the MSAN shutting down the VDSL port based on MAC
> address during the trial if you tried to use a non Telstra supplied CPE.
>
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> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Joseph
> Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au>
> *Sent:* Monday, 14 December 2015 6:38 PM
> *To:* Bradley Amm
> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] NBN FTTN And Migrations and End User Equipment
>
>
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> I don't know all your questions answers but I have heard that VDSL will
> not have an NTD, I.e. it will be standard 'phone line' hand off.
>
> It's also important to note that nbn will require vectoring so make sure
> the cpe you buy / tell your customers to buy supports it, no vectoring no
> connection.
>
> I heard this from an nbnco employee in a semi anonymous format so I'm not
> sure if this is backed up by public documents.
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Bradley Amm <
> Bradley.Amm at telethonkids.org.au> wrote:
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> Hey Guy
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>
> I have been wondering?
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> How are NBN going to migrate users from a current working ADSL and phone
> to the FTTN NBN
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> EG. I have a Telstra phone and working Bigpond ADSL.
>
>
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> Now NBN FTTN comes along. Now I assume NBN are building the Nodes in areas
> where lots of phone lines converge and meet up EG Street Ends and
> intersections etc.
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> Will NBN just leave my phone line connected to the Exchange and when I
> request to be migrated will they basically chop my line at the cabinet and
> plug me into the cabinet.
>
> What will happen to the dial tone in that instance. Will it be provided
> from the cabinet or will it still come from the exchange.
>
>
>
> Also what will happen at the end users house. Will they have an NTD or
> will they just need a VDSL2 modem. Any ideas what VDSL2 modems are on the
> market?
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> Thanks
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