[AusNOG] Pricing for Going Direct To NBN Co (vs, Aggregator)

[Chad Kelly]

On 12/9/2015 10:11 AM, Richard Ham - Lists wrote:
>> On 8 Dec 2015, at 12:44 PM, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:
>> While all this sounds fantastic in theory has anyone actually worked out some numbers, like what the start up costs for such an organisation would be and what the ongoing costs would be?
>> Some kind of a business plan would be handy as well, as you would need to figure out how you were going to fund the thing.
>> Without those things this project won't happen.
> |“Bandwidth co-ops” have been an obsession of this community since the aussie-isp days.
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> |Maybe earlier than that.
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> |They’ve never worked because the parts of the industry that want one are too tiny to develop the buying power necessary to make the business model work.
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> |There are two segments of the Australian telco industry: The segment comprised of companies who understand that operating their own infrastructure for profit can tilt the |playing field in their favor, and the segment comprised of people who want the playing field to be level.
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> |A co-op needs at least one player in the first group to make its buying power significant.
> |The second group is perhaps 5% of the market, which probably isn’t enough to garner an invitation to NBN’s Christmas drinks function, much less any kind of bulk discount.
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> |If you want to make connectivity to the NBN cheaper, build a network. In 2003.
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> | - mark
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> As much as I hate the thought, I'd be willing to push that back by a few years into the 90's - pulling out the mbox for aussie-isp, some of us were talking about One World/"SATIX"/something that ended up being part of leading-edge telecom(??) for bandwidth, dial ports and IP space that never went far, then generations of entities which from memory ended up being part of SP Telecom (Ross W??). It seems the problem with a lot of these ideas is that IF it works out and ends up gaining momentum without going broke, it eventually gets sold to someone who eventually gets bought by one of the big entities (think TPG) anyway.
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> Fatalistic much.
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> Regards,
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> Richard
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Just on this, why not have a discussion with the guys at ix.asn.au given 
that they are already in this space?
It seams rather pointless setting up a totally new organisation when 
ix.asn.au already has existing connections with some pretty big players 
in the industry.
Regards Chad.


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