[AusNOG] Pricing for Going Direct To NBN Co (vs Aggregator)

Sat Dec 5 21:35:46 EST 2015

Do you have documents to support that? I looked into it a while back for 
one of
my concentration areas and never had that limitation put in front of me, 
from
nbnco staff or documents I was reading.

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You have to do a minimum of 5 but you have to have a plan to connect to all 
151
pops

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Subject: [AusNOG] Pricing for Going Direct To NBN Co (vs Aggregator)
Date: Sat, Dec 5, 2015 8:31 PM
You don't HAVE to, you can pick and choose. Some have onboarded to their
concentration areas and bought from aggregators for the rest.

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On Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Andrew Kitchen < a.kitchen at xi.com.au 
[a.kitchen at xi.com.au] > wrote:
We recently looked at this but the killer is we had to connect to all 151 
POP's.
There has been discussions some time ago about getting a group of us 
together to
setup a not for profit like WAIX but those discussions haven't progressed 
any
further at this stage.
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Subject: [AusNOG] Pricing for Going Direct To NBN Co (vs Aggregator)
Date: Sat, Dec 5, 2015 8:22 PM
Hi Noggers,
As would be the case with many smaller ISPs on this list we are buying our 
layer
2 NBN through an aggregator. For us the cost is the tail price plus a fixed
amount of AGVC.
I'm trying to understand what costs would be involved in going to NBN Co
directly. I know the components are AVC, CVC, backhaul to the POI and the 
end
customer tails but can anyone point me to what each of these would cost 
directly
 from NBN Co?
I'm assuming since all ISPs buy at the same rate that this info wouldn't be
secret but I seem to be having a hard time finding it anywhere.
Also hugely useful would be if someone has done the numbers - at what point 
(in
terms of end customer numbers) does it make financial sense to go direct in 
a
particular POI rather than through an aggregator?
Any pointers would be much appreciated.
-James
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