[AusNOG] Pricing for Going Direct To NBN Co (vs Aggregator)

Quentin Rittman quentinrittman at internode.on.net
Sat Dec 5 21:32:37 EST 2015


If you’re connecting to 151 you’re doing it wrong :-P

From:  AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Andrew Kitchen <a.kitchen at xi.com.au>
Date:  Saturday, 5 December 2015 at 9:26 PM
To:  James Mcintosh <james.mcintosh at rocketmail.com>, Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject:  Re: [AusNOG] Pricing for Going Direct To NBN Co (vs Aggregator)

We recently looked at this but the killer is we had to connect to all 151 POP's.

There has been discussions some time ago about getting a group of us together to setup a not for profit like WAIX but those discussions haven't progressed any further at this stage.

Regards

Andrew

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From: "James Mcintosh" <james.mcintosh at rocketmail.com>
To: "Ausnog" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] Pricing for Going Direct To NBN Co (vs Aggregator)
Date: Sat, Dec 5, 2015 8:22 PM

Hi Noggers,

As would be the case with many smaller ISPs on this list we are buying our layer 2 NBN through an aggregator. For us the cost is the tail price plus a fixed amount of AGVC.

I'm trying to understand what costs would be involved in going to NBN Co directly. I know the components are AVC, CVC, backhaul to the POI and the end customer tails but can anyone point me to what each of these would cost directly from NBN Co?

I'm assuming since all ISPs buy at the same rate that this info wouldn't be secret but I seem to be having a hard time finding it anywhere.

Also hugely useful would be if someone has done the numbers - at what point (in terms of end customer numbers) does it make financial sense to go direct in a particular POI rather than through an aggregator?

Any pointers would be much appreciated.

-James


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