[AusNOG] NBN Buying Group

[Andrew Yager]

Hi,

Just a quick update - we've had heaps of positive feedback around this idea
and it looks like enough interested providers to make the shared-risk
scenario viable.

We'll have a bit of a think internally on how this could work and what the
varying requirements might look like. I will probably organise to have some
individual chats around scale/number of services/interesting PoIs with some
of the larger groups that have indicated potential interest over the next
few weeks; otherwise at AusNOG.

Thanks,
Andrew


On 29 July 2015 at 11:19, Andrew Yager <andrew at rwts.com.au> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Sorry for the list SPAM. We've been chatting in our office about our
> current commercial dissatisfaction with our NBN aggregation services, but
> lamenting that our volume is not sufficient (nor likely to be in the short
> term) to justify a significant investment in NBN POI direct connectivity.
>
> We think the metric for NBN viability comes around 100-200 active services
> per POI, give or take - and that the only way that small providers are
> going to be able to compete commercially (with both speed, congestion and
> cost) is to continue to tolerate TW/iSeek/AAPTs aggregation or to "combine
> forces" to create an NBN buying group with a more direct/transparent
> process of engaging with NBN, determining speed and congestion and managing
> costs.
>
> Lots of complicated technical and commercial details to work out - but
> would there be potentially some interest in this?
>
> The key goals would be
>
>    - essentially transparent access to NBN's B2B interface
>    - essentially transparent access to port usage graphs and backhaul
>    information
>    - some sort of stable commercial model that protects other parties in
>    the buying group from an unexpected events to another party. For example, a
>    large enough group of similarly equal sized players so that the failure of
>    a single party does not provide an undue burden to the remaining businesses
>    - or something.
>
> This is a "similar" question to the triple-play services question that was
> flowing through the list last week. For the record, we got a number of
> responses but we are still only sitting at a few thousand potential
> services, which isn't enough to warrant this yet. We're talking about a
> setting up a closed website for managing the "potential" service numbers
> for this sort of thing.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
>
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