[AusNOG] IPv6

[Brent Paddon]

Hi Russell,

I believe you represent Telstra ? - are you prepared to share what Telstra
is doing in this regard? - especially around end users (bigpond / mobile /
etc).

There were a number of public comments made years ago and since then its
been silence.

Brent

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Russell Langton <russell3901 at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> I think this discussion could continue for a while with everyone's
> different opinions........
>
> Lets start looking forward;
> While on the subject on Ipv6 deployments, If you have not started a Ipv6
> deployment for your network  - I wonder if anyone can comment about whats
> holding them back?
> Is it upstream connectivity/legacy devices/lack of business
> driver/time/training/testing etc.
>
> Might be interesting to see what is the feedback from the industry.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Mark ZZZ Smith <markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Mark Delany <g2x at juliet.emu.st>
>> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 April 2015, 10:20
>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] IPv6
>>
>>
>> On 01/04/2015 9:20 AM, "Mark Delany" <g2x at juliet.emu.st> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 01Apr15, Mark Andrews allegedly wrote:
>> > >
>> > > In message <CAOu9xNJbkKhU3DbTjmX1LG5hcpx+uS-6XxOjajd3rS=
>> wHEurFg at mail.gmail.com>, Robert Hudson writes:
>> > > >
>> > > > Right now, it seems that some ISPs/carriers are deciding to invest
>> in
>> > > > NAT/PAT (or CGN, if that's really a thing) rather than IPv6.  Why?
>> >
>> > > No, its been selected because ISPs as a whole have procastinated
>> > > about delivering IPv6
>> >
>> > Not sure it's an either/or situation. Even if you deploy IPv6
>> > everywhere you still have to offer IPv4 reachability for your
>> > customers.
>> >
>> > Hopefully what Robert is observing is not an alternative to IPv6,
>> > rather it's a means of giving customers access to those recalcitrant
>> > IPv4-only destinations.
>> That was my point. Even if an ISP offers IPv6 to 100% of its customers,
>> it still needs to offer IPv4 to practically 100% of its customers as well,
>> because there's a lot of systems/software/tools out there that don't yet
>> speak IPv6.
>>
>> / So nobody here who is advocating deploying IPv6 is saying (or has said)
>> to switch off IPv4 at the same time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On the bright side, the more IPv6 you deploy the less traffic will
>> > need to pass through your CGN. IOWs, deploying IPV6 could actually
>> > save you some coin!
>> >
>> >
>> > Mark.
>> >
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