[AusNOG] IPv6
Mark ZZZ Smith
markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au
Wed Apr 1 11:12:14 EST 2015
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From: Chris Hurley <chris at minopher.net.au>
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Sent: Wednesday, 1 April 2015, 0:49
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IPv6
While I appreciate the horse has well and truly bolted the BIGGEST mistake
in IPv6 was not making it backwardly compatible with IPv4.
/ So how would you have made IPv6 backwardly compatible with IPv4?
If your apurest IPv6 is great but 'they' forget about legacy devices and the IDtenT
issue. You might be Steven Hawkins but you have to bring the people with
you, or at least allow for their level of understanding and willingness to
pay.
Which to be blunt is zero $.
Second mistake was not making the NBN IPv6 only. This was a chance to draw
a line in the sand, rather than say for an extreme example "You can run
AppleTalk over it". Which under the current spec you technically can, mind
you Apple has dropped this ages ago from their support protocols.
So given we have run out of IPv4 addresses what is the NBN proposing?
Or is the new NAT scheme the saviour? Rather than making some real hard
calls.
Regards,
Chris Hurley BE (Elec), MBA
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On 31/03/15 4:48 PM, "Mark Andrews" <marka at isc.org> wrote:
>
>In message <551A2AC3.5030604 at apcs.com.au>, Joseph Goldman writes:
>>
>> On the flip side - all it would take would be either Google or Facebook
>> or <other massive service> to announce they are going IPv6 only in x
>> months and uptake would be pretty quick, but no one with commercial
>> interests would ever do that, and anything with non-commercial
>>interests
>> is too small to make that dent.
>
>Lots of ISP's only talk IPv6 to the CPE device. IPv4 is a service
>on top of IPv6. This model also works well in data centers. If
>you travel around the world your devices may have configured
>themselves to do this without you noticing.
>
>Mark
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