[AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with added audio

Wed Sep 10 06:24:44 EST 2014

So this has been bugging me for a few months, just occurred to me that
someone here may have an answer..

I'm in one of the FTTN trial areas which were announced a few months ago.
 I'm also on TID ADSL. For the last couple of months my business phone bill
has had a 'The Telstra Promise NBN Standard Install Discount' listed as a
line item (At $0.00).  I've asked Telstra a couple of times, but noone
there knows what the line item is for..  Is this an indication that NBN is
*close*? Or just that *It's going to happen at some stage*? :)

--DG

On 8 September 2014 18:05, John Wooler <john.wooler at exigent.com.au> wrote:

> I too would agree with the statement that we can all "Learn to live with
> it, regardless of how it works out"
>
> Or we simply find another way to get around the NBN and create another
> company identical to the NBN with a better network plan and from the news
> articles that were flying around a while back, TPG plan to do exactly this.
>
> After all, they do have the assets to do this with the ownership of Pipe
> Networks, etc.
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> John Wooler,
> Founder & CEO
> Exigent Enterprise
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
> Beeson, Ayden
> Sent: Monday, 8 September 2014 5:20 PM
> To: 'Guy Ellis'; 'ausnog at lists.ausnog.net'
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with
> added audio
>
> I hate that argument.
>
> It's the same one that Malcolm Turnbull made after we petitioned to keep
> the FTTP network design as proposed by Labor in the first place, when he
> told us all that the people had spoken, democracy had done its job and we
> should all just go away.
>
> The Liberals won the election in SPITE of the NBN, not because of it.
>
> I think Karl is spot on, though I agree with Simon's point of view that he
> can do better being in the NBNCo team on the board rather than on the
> outside complaining like the rest of us.
>
> I could go on about this topic for ages but I'll leave it at that.
> Politics are politics, its all a done deal these days and we will learn to
> live with it, regardless of how it works out.
>
> Thanks,
> Ayden Beeson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Guy
> Ellis
> Sent: Monday, 8 September 2014 5:15 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with
> added audio
>
> Karl,
>
> I think you are missing one key point, the current Government was elected
> by the people of Australia, not by the people of Wingepool.
> The policy of FTTN was no secret prior to the election.
>
> Blaming Simon is for any of this is most unfair.
>
> I too would prefer FTTP, but it ain't going to happen under this
> Government.
> Get with the program or run for Government!
>
>   - G.
>
>
>
> On 8/09/2014 3:38 PM, Karl Auer wrote:
> > On Sat, 2014-09-06 at 20:21 +0930, Mark Prior wrote:
> >> at AusNOG (or even if you were and want to hear it again) you can
> >> watch [Simon Hackett's] keynote as a video on his blog site. It's 40
> >> minutes long but worth the time.
> >> <http://simonhackett.com/2014/09/06/rebooting-the-nbn/>
> > It's a long apology cum explanation of a the huge stuff-up that is the
> > increasingly-inaccurately-named NBN, a project that has been near
> > destroyed by people who know the price of everything and the value of
> > naught.
> >
> > Simon's talk was made bearable only by the fact that it was Simon - a
> > credible voice, and we will forgive him anything. Everything he said
> > was true - and everything he said was irrelevant against the simple
> > fact of the utter, total, abject lack of any sort of vision for
> > Australia's networked future.
> >
> > Simon spoke oh-so-condescendingly of those who dared to feel betrayed
> > by that, saying in effect that "anyone who doesn't understand all this
> > is just a puddle of entitlement looking for a pony. Because Whirlpool."
> > Hearts and minds, Simon, hearts and minds!
> >
> > It would have been nice for there to have been a hint of vision in
> > Simon's talk. But it was all about how it's not as bad as we think,
> > how copper is alright, no really it is!, how things are so much better
> > than they look, and how it will all be alright eventually. Really?
> > When? And for what value of "alright" exactly?
> >
> > Regards, K.
> >
> > PS: Can we PLEASE never see that damn Parisian train again?
> >
>
>
> --
> Guy Ellis
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> www.traverse.com.au
> T: +61 3 9386 4435 M: +61 419 398 234
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