[AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with added audio

[John Wooler]

I too would agree with the statement that we can all "Learn to live with it, regardless of how it works out"

Or we simply find another way to get around the NBN and create another company identical to the NBN with a better network plan and from the news articles that were flying around a while back, TPG plan to do exactly this.

After all, they do have the assets to do this with the ownership of Pipe Networks, etc.

Kindest Regards,

John Wooler,
Founder & CEO
Exigent Enterprise


-----Original Message-----
From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Beeson, Ayden
Sent: Monday, 8 September 2014 5:20 PM
To: 'Guy Ellis'; 'ausnog at lists.ausnog.net'
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with added audio

I hate that argument.

It's the same one that Malcolm Turnbull made after we petitioned to keep the FTTP network design as proposed by Labor in the first place, when he told us all that the people had spoken, democracy had done its job and we should all just go away.

The Liberals won the election in SPITE of the NBN, not because of it.

I think Karl is spot on, though I agree with Simon's point of view that he can do better being in the NBNCo team on the board rather than on the outside complaining like the rest of us.

I could go on about this topic for ages but I'll leave it at that. Politics are politics, its all a done deal these days and we will learn to live with it, regardless of how it works out.

Thanks,
Ayden Beeson

-----Original Message-----
From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Guy Ellis
Sent: Monday, 8 September 2014 5:15 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with added audio

Karl,

I think you are missing one key point, the current Government was elected by the people of Australia, not by the people of Wingepool.
The policy of FTTN was no secret prior to the election.

Blaming Simon is for any of this is most unfair.

I too would prefer FTTP, but it ain't going to happen under this Government.
Get with the program or run for Government!

  - G.



On 8/09/2014 3:38 PM, Karl Auer wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-09-06 at 20:21 +0930, Mark Prior wrote:
>> at AusNOG (or even if you were and want to hear it again) you can 
>> watch [Simon Hackett's] keynote as a video on his blog site. It's 40 
>> minutes long but worth the time.
>> <http://simonhackett.com/2014/09/06/rebooting-the-nbn/>
> It's a long apology cum explanation of a the huge stuff-up that is the 
> increasingly-inaccurately-named NBN, a project that has been near 
> destroyed by people who know the price of everything and the value of 
> naught.
>
> Simon's talk was made bearable only by the fact that it was Simon - a 
> credible voice, and we will forgive him anything. Everything he said 
> was true - and everything he said was irrelevant against the simple 
> fact of the utter, total, abject lack of any sort of vision for 
> Australia's networked future.
>
> Simon spoke oh-so-condescendingly of those who dared to feel betrayed 
> by that, saying in effect that "anyone who doesn't understand all this 
> is just a puddle of entitlement looking for a pony. Because Whirlpool."
> Hearts and minds, Simon, hearts and minds!
>
> It would have been nice for there to have been a hint of vision in 
> Simon's talk. But it was all about how it's not as bad as we think, 
> how copper is alright, no really it is!, how things are so much better 
> than they look, and how it will all be alright eventually. Really?
> When? And for what value of "alright" exactly?
>
> Regards, K.
>
> PS: Can we PLEASE never see that damn Parisian train again?
>


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Guy Ellis
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