[AusNOG] Choice says using Netflix is NOT Piracy

Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com
Tue Sep 9 12:18:08 EST 2014


The later seems to be a typical Foxtel, Telstra (name big encumbrant) way to do business




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> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Tim
> March
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2014 12:09 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Choice says using Netflix is NOT Piracy
> 
> 
> If it is what it is that's pretty poor but it's not an uncommon way to approach
> price change from a commercial perspective.
> 
> One of the things I've always liked about Internode is that they get on the
> front foot about things like that;
> 
> "We're changing our plans. Your plan will be cheaper next month." vs "We're
> changing our plans. If you don't call us we'll continue to administer the
> pineapple indefinitely."
> 
> 
> 
> T.
> 
> On 9/09/14 11:15 AM, John Lindsay wrote:
> > The Foxtel web site says:
> >
> > When are these changes happening? -  November 3, 2014.
> >
> > and:
> >
> > Do I need to do anything? -  You won't need to do a thing.
> >
> > but then later:
> >
> > Is Foxtel changing its price for new customers only? -  As we've
> > mentioned we're launching new pricing and packaging options on Nov 3.
> > Our new packs are available from Nov 3 on a 12 month fixed term
> > contract to new and existing customers.
> >
> > So basically as misdirecting truth hiding that failure to act will
> > cost you the subscriber.
> >
> > Make a diary note or just call and cancel now and see what the offer
> > is to stay :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John Lindsay
> > johnslindsay at mac.com <mailto:johnslindsay at mac.com>
> > +61403577711
> >
> > On 9 Sep 2014, at 10:06 am, Scott Howard <scott at doc.net.au
> > <mailto:scott at doc.net.au>> wrote:
> >
> >> Existing customers need to request it. Otherwise they continue paying
> >> the higher price.
> >>
> >>   Scott
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Seamus Ryan <s.ryan at uber.com.au
> >> <mailto:s.ryan at uber.com.au>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Orlly?____
> >>
> >>     __ __
> >>
> >>     Was/is that applied to all current subscribers? I haven't had
> >>     Foxtel for a few years now but my folks have had it since the mid
> >>     90's or whenever it came out. Would be keen to know if they have
> >>     to do something to get the better pricing.____
> >>
> >>     __ __
> >>
> >>     __-          __Seamus____
> >>
> >>     __ __
> >>
> >>     *From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> >>     <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] *On Behalf Of *Jared Hirst
> >>     *Sent:* Tuesday, 9 September 2014 9:22 AM
> >>     *To:* Skeeve Stevens
> >>     *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
> >>     *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Choice says using Netflix is NOT
> >> Piracy____
> >>
> >>     __ __
> >>
> >>     Foxtel just halved their pricing too which is good
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     On Tuesday, September 9, 2014, Skeeve Stevens
> >>     <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
> >>     <mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:____
> >>
> >>         Also at:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/australians-pay-
> >> up-to-431-more-for-tv-shows-online-20140908-10dycn.html____
> >>
> >>
> >>         ____
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> >>
> >>         ...Skeeve____
> >>
> >>         __ __
> >>
> >>         *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd____
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> >>         __ __
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> >>         On 9 September 2014 08:22, Skeeve Stevens
> >>         <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:____
> >>
> >>             Just watching channel ABC's Morning News show (815am AEST
> >>             Tueasday 9/9/2014)____
> >>
> >>             __ __
> >>
> >>             Choice CEO Alan Kirkland was just on TV telling viewers
> >>             that their opinion is that using Netflix is NOT illegal
> >>             and that the government needs to do something to make it
> >>             more clear.____
> >>
> >>             __ __
> >>
> >>             He seemed to be rather articulate and understood you need
> >>             a VPN (mostly) to access content, but that users are
> >>             PAYING for content and essentially that they should not be
> >>             considered pirates.____
> >>
> >>             __ __
> >>
> >>             He also mentioned that Foxtel and others mark up content
> >>             to Australians anywhere up to 300-400%.____
> >>
> >>             __ __
> >>
> >>             It is a very good thing that these issues are getting more
> >>             widespread publicity... the more the better.
> >>             ____
> >>
> >>
> >>             ...Skeeve____
> >>
> >>             __ __
> >>
> >>             *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd____
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