[AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing

[Peter Tonoli]

Or operating systems even .. <http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/06/09/mac-address-randomization-joins-apples-heap-of-ios-8-privacy-improvements> 

----- Original Message -----

> From: "Ben Cooper" <ben at zeno.io>

> To: "thelionroars" <thelionroars1337 at gmail.com>

> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net

> Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 1:02:52 PM

> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing



> Apps that switch your mac address after $time will become popular.



> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:00 PM, thelionroars <
> thelionroars1337 at gmail.com > wrote:




> > I would hope someone involved realises that identifying with a MAC
> > address is worse than useless.



> > On 30 Oct 2014 12:42, "Sam Silvester" < sam.silvester at gmail.com >
> > wrote:



> > > David, that isn't very comforting.


> > > As it's defined by regulation, it's subject to change without
> > > further
> > > legislative oversight.


> > > Also, I'm willing to bet it'll also include (for mobile providers)
> > > stuff like GPS location etc. It'll gradually scope creep out, just
> > > you
> > > watch.



> > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, David Beveridge <
> > > dave at bevhost.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:



> > > > I was listening to the parliament broadcast on the radio this
> > > > morning
> > > > and (boring I know)

> > > > but I definitely heard Malcolm say that we not be required to
> > > > record
> > > > the destination IP addresses that customers visit, only the
> > > > source
> > > > IP
> > > > address mapping.

> > > > That is, we should be able to supply the account name of the
> > > > customer
> > > > who had the IP address at a given date and time.



> > > > I'm not really sure where this leaves freewifi providers which
> > > > have
> > > > a
> > > > multitude of unknown users behind a single IP.







> > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Ben Cooper < ben at zeno.io >
> > > > wrote:



> > > > > Last I checked (90 minutes ago). They still have not set what
> > > > > data
> > > > > they want kept.



> > > > > Reference:
> > > > > http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fems%2Fr5375_ems_e6cf11b4-5a4e-41bc-ae27-031e2b90e001%22





> > > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:54 AM, David Beveridge <
> > > > > dave at bevhost.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > wrote:



> > > > > > I don't know why you're so upset about this.

> > > > > > They're only asking you to keep radius and smtp logs.

> > > > > > It's not like you're being asked to keep two years worth of
> > > > > > netflow
> > > > > > history.



> > > > > > dave



> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Paul Julian <
> > > > > > paul at oxygennetworks.com.au > wrote:








> > > > > > > This is total bullshit, these people just have no clue, is
> > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > nothing we can do as a community to try and stop this
> > > > > > > nonsense
> > > > > > > ?




> > > > > > > I can just see the $$$$ now…..




> > > > > > > Regards


> > > > > > > Paul




> > > > > > > From: AusNOG [mailto: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net ] On
> > > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > > Of
> > > > > > > Andrew Yager

> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:22 AM

> > > > > > > To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net

> > > > > > > Subject: [AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost)
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > thing







> > > > > > > http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/turnbull-to-rush-metadata-retention-legislation-through-parliament/story-e6frg90f-1227106806266?nk=72104b22405c826c296d068859fd4bea






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