[AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing

Ben Cooper ben at zeno.io
Thu Oct 30 13:02:52 EST 2014


Apps that switch your mac address after $time will become popular.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:00 PM, thelionroars <thelionroars1337 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I would hope someone involved realises that identifying with a MAC address
> is worse than useless.
> On 30 Oct 2014 12:42, "Sam Silvester" <sam.silvester at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> David, that isn't very comforting.
>>
>> As it's defined by regulation, it's subject to change without further
>> legislative oversight.
>>
>> Also, I'm willing to bet it'll also include (for mobile providers) stuff
>> like GPS location etc. It'll gradually scope creep out, just you watch.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was listening to the parliament broadcast on the radio this morning
>>> and (boring I know)
>>> but I definitely heard Malcolm say that we not be required to record the
>>> destination IP addresses that customers visit, only the source IP address
>>> mapping.
>>> That is, we should be able to supply the account name of the customer
>>> who had the IP address at a given date and time.
>>>
>>> I'm not really sure where this leaves freewifi providers which have a
>>> multitude of unknown users behind a single IP.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Ben Cooper <ben at zeno.io> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Last I checked (90 minutes ago). They still have not set what data they
>>>> want kept.
>>>>
>>>> Reference:
>>>> http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fems%2Fr5375_ems_e6cf11b4-5a4e-41bc-ae27-031e2b90e001%22
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:54 AM, David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know why you're so upset about this.
>>>>> They're only asking you to keep radius and smtp logs.
>>>>> It's not like you're being asked to keep two years worth of netflow
>>>>> history.
>>>>>
>>>>> dave
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Paul Julian <
>>>>> paul at oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is total bullshit, these people just have no clue, is there
>>>>>> nothing we can do as a community to try and stop this nonsense ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can just see the $$$$ now…..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf
>>>>>> Of *Andrew Yager
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:22 AM
>>>>>> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>>>>> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/turnbull-to-rush-metadata-retention-legislation-through-parliament/story-e6frg90f-1227106806266?nk=72104b22405c826c296d068859fd4bea
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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