[AusNOG] Google DNS

Wed Oct 15 10:31:04 EST 2014

In message <CAEUfUGPwRErK55N5SciYb5BPQXDShakwHZJ4o_R61C=PQdFybA at mail.gmail.com>, Skeeve Stevens writes:
> 
> I also use them in a lot of IoE devices, especially for longevity... when
> DNS servers are decommissioned for some reason (which does happen), it is a
> pain to get everything changed.

We have this protocol called DHCP.  It works even for statically
addressed machines.

> I hope that the Google Public servers will be around for many years to
> come, so yes... convenience and portability (moving between providers).
> 
> I just had a situation crop up where about 100 sites used to be on TPG and
> a few years later moved to another provider due to business decisions...
> migration was easy, but the DNS all broke badly as they were no longer
> allowed to query the hard set servers.
> 
> We wont have that issue with googles servers.
> 
> 
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> On 15 October 2014 09:08, Justin Sullivan <js at sublimeip.com> wrote:
> 
> > Here here, definitely agree laziness (or if you want to be more positive
> > about it, "convenience") is a huge factor for 8.8.8.8 / 8.8.4.4.
> >
> > JS
> >
> > On 15/10/2014 7:47 am, James Morgan wrote:
> >
> >> As Google and OpenDNS's resolvers seem to be relatively popular (I'm
> >>>
> >> not completely sure why, ISPs should be running well performing
> >> resolvers themselves)
> >>
> >> Just on that, why are they so popular?  For me it's partially laziness.
> >> The addresses 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are easy to remember, and particularly
> >> if you're configuring a connection on an ISP that isn't your own it's
> >> often a pain to go and find those details.  Internode for example has
> >> this five clicks deep and a long scroll off the front page (via search).
> >> TPG has it two clicks deep with a short scroll.  iiNet is two clicks
> >> with a longer scroll.  Telstra (for BigPond) is three clicks deep,
> >> originally leading to fairly useless information.
> >>
> >> Of course, you'll struggle to see any of these without original DNS
> >> settings... ;)  Maybe that's where it comes from?
> >>
> >> James.
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> <div dir=3D"ltr">I also use them in a lot of IoE devices, especially for lo=
> ngevity... when DNS servers are decommissioned for some reason (which does =
> happen), it is a pain to get everything changed.<div><br></div><div>I hope =
> that the Google Public servers will be around for many years to come, so ye=
> s... convenience and portability (moving between providers).</div><div><br>=
> </div><div>I just had a situation crop up where about 100 sites used to be =
> on TPG and a few years later moved to another provider due to business deci=
> sions... migration was easy, but the DNS all broke badly as they were no lo=
> nger allowed to query the hard set servers.</div><div><br></div><div>We won=
> t have that issue with googles servers.</div><div><br></div></div><div clas=
> s=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br>...Skeev=
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> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 15 October 2014 09:08, Justin Sullivan <s=
> pan dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:js at sublimeip.com" target=3D"_blank">j=
> s at sublimeip.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
> style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Her=
> e here, definitely agree laziness (or if you want to be more positive about=
>  it, "convenience") is a huge factor for 8.8.8.8 / 8.8.4.4.<br>
> <br>
> JS<br>
> <br>
> On 15/10/2014 7:47 am, James Morgan wrote:<br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
> x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
> argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> As Google and OpenDNS's resolvers seem to be relatively popular (I'=
> m<br>
> </blockquote>
> not completely sure why, ISPs should be running well performing<br>
> resolvers themselves)<br>
> <br>
> Just on that, why are they so popular?=C2=A0 For me it's partially lazi=
> ness.<br>
> The addresses 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are easy to remember, and particularly<br=
> >
> if you're configuring a connection on an ISP that isn't your own it=
> 's<br>
> often a pain to go and find those details.=C2=A0 Internode for example has<=
> br>
> this five clicks deep and a long scroll off the front page (via search).<br=
> >
> TPG has it two clicks deep with a short scroll.=C2=A0 iiNet is two clicks<b=
> r>
> with a longer scroll.=C2=A0 Telstra (for BigPond) is three clicks deep,<br>
> originally leading to fairly useless information.<br>
> <br>
> Of course, you'll struggle to see any of these without original DNS<br>
> settings... ;)=C2=A0 Maybe that's where it comes from?<br>
> <br>
> James.<br>
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