[AusNOG] Google DNS

Mark ZZZ Smith markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au
Tue Oct 14 07:45:28 EST 2014





----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark ZZZ Smith <markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au>
> To: Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au>; Brad Peczka <brad at bradpeczka.com>
> Cc: "ausnog at ausnog.net" <ausnog at ausnog.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 October 2014, 7:39
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Google DNS
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>>  From: Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au>
>> To: Brad Peczka <brad at bradpeczka.com> 
>> Cc: "ausnog at ausnog.net" <ausnog at ausnog.net> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, 14 October 2014, 1:26
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Google DNS
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I noticed that too. Looks like they are trunking the traffic back to US 
> nodes, Asia nodes probably got out of sync or crashed.
>> 
>> 
>> OpenDNS appears to be weathering the increased load, people that want local 
> DNS can try switch their 8.8.8.8 to 208.67.222.222  (might be smart long term 
> anyway, to have 2 different upstream DNSs, and with ODNS being on Equinix syd no 
> reason why not).
>> 
> 
<snip>
> 
> If you want to measure your DNS query time, the 'dig' utility prints it 
> at the bottom. 
> 

And based on all of that, people using google's DNS servers today are going to feel like the Internet is a bit sluggish today, as the 100ms budget is already exceed before the TCP 3 way handshake has even started.

[mark at opy ~]$ dig ausnog.net @8.8.8.8

; <<>> DiG 9.9.4-P2-RedHat-9.9.4-15.P2.fc20 <<>> ausnog.net @8.8.8.8
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47601
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ausnog.net.			IN	A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
ausnog.net.		3467	IN	A	54.252.97.250

**** ;; Query time: 158 msec ****
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Tue Oct 14 07:41:48 AEDT 2014
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 55

[mark at opy ~]$ 


Google are well aware of how much latency matters, they're working on (and implementing) TCP "Fast Open" to allow payload data to be carried in the TCP segments of the 3 way handshake to lower latency of content delivery so that the browser etc., can start displaying data faster:

http://lwn.net/Articles/508865/




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>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Brad Peczka <brad at bradpeczka.com> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Up here as well.
>>> 
>>> Though - did anyone else see a bunch of hops just disappear?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> -Brad.
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: AusNOG [ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Rhys Cuff 
> (Latrobe I.T) [rhys at latrobeit.com.au]
>>> Sent: Monday, 13 October 2014 7:29 PM
>>> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Google DNS
>>> 
>>> Back for me...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2014, at 10:26 pm, "Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)" 
> <rhys at latrobeit.com.au<mailto:rhys at latrobeit.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I didn't get out the door, both routers were still fanging it so I 
> figured it wasn't that bad,,,
>>> Normally my phone would ring before I got anywhere near a terminal 
> too... ;-(
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2014, at 10:20 pm, "Tim Raphael" 
> <raphael.timothy at gmail.com<mailto:raphael.timothy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did the same thing - turned right back around having just left home!
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
> <rhys at latrobeit.com.au<mailto:rhys at latrobeit.com.au>> wrote:
>>> That's something I thought is never see!
>>> I ping that every 30 seconds to check for connectivity outside my 
> network.
>>> I did the mad dash scramble for nothing this time ;-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2014, at 10:12 pm, "ANSA SERVERS" 
> <info at ausnetservers.net.au<mailto:info at ausnetservers.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 is down here in Victoria & Sydney
>>> 
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>>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Rhys 
> Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
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>>> To: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
>>> Subject: [AusNOG] Google DNS
>>> 
>>> Hey Guys
>>> 
>>> Has anyone notice Google DNS (8.8.8.8) has stoped working and replying 
> to pings?
>>> Seems to be the same with the two providers I use.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
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