[AusNOG] PIPE NSW Changing Details

Brad Evans brad at delion.com.au
Wed Oct 1 13:47:49 EST 2014


I'm guessing that if you turn off NSW-IX that the vast majority of that 
traffic would then move over to Equinix and Megaport.

For us we see 90/10 traffic split between Equinix and PIPE-IX in NSW.   
If we bring down our session on Equinix, most of the traffic (~95%) 
moves over to PIPE-IX anyway. It appears our main traffic sources prefer 
to send traffic to our AS via Equinix rather than PIPE-IX.

-Brad


On 1/10/2014 1:24 PM, Tom Berryman wrote:
>
> In NSW presently:
>
> Equinix - 11609
>
> NSW-IX - 7967
>
> Megaport – 4495
>
> --we don’t have PIPE there.
>
> NSW-IX sees the highest inbound for us by about 200% over the next.
>
> Tom
>
> *From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *Skeeve Stevens
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 October 2014 12:20 PM
> *To:* Bevan Slattery
> *Cc:* AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net; Joshua Munro; Belinda Flanders
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] PIPE NSW Changing Details
>
> *BAM!*
>
> Go Megaport.
>
> $250 peering only (1Gb)
>
> $500 peering + VxC capability (10Gb)
>
> News worthy day!
>
> I wonder how long till Pipe Peering dies... most networks we run have 
> disconnected from it... Megaport and EQ cover most things.  I hear IX 
> is good, but not had the opportunity to connect up someone yet... will 
> soon.
>
> I'd love to see a route differential between all 4 on a state by 
> state.. I wonder if someone could do a snapshot analysis. I'm most 
> interested in NSW.
>
> I'd like to see what is and isn't on each peering.
>
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
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> On 1 October 2014 12:15, Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au 
> <mailto:bevan at slattery.net.au>> wrote:
>
>     To make life easy as of today we are doing a 1Gbps IX only port
>     for $250/month no contract, no membership, no install.  Also will
>     have a number of major content providers coming on net in next 30
>     days which would mean there won't be much that's not on either.
>
>     Agree that it's time to switch :)
>
>     Cheers
>
>     [b]
>
>
>     On 1 Oct 2014, at 11:42 am, Craig Askings <craig at askings.com.au
>     <mailto:craig at askings.com.au>> wrote:
>
>         Does PIPE-IX even offer a worthwhile product anymore? Since an
>         IX’s value is in it’s peers and it’s ability to connect them.
>         Who is left on PIPE IX that isn’t available on Megaport and
>         IX-AU? How many clients are going to be exiting over the next
>         24 months as their contracts expire?
>
>         On 1 Oct 2014, at 11:29 am, Bob Woolley <boblobsta at gmail.com
>         <mailto:boblobsta at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>             PIPE has absolutely gone to crap.
>
>             Just shy of 4 weeks since our issue on QLD-IX and they are
>             still trying to figure out how to make the TPG router on
>             QLD-IX perform basic ARP functions (I only mention this as
>             this job is being directly managed by PIPE).
>
>             I don't know about you guys but if we had an ARP issue on
>             a router for more than a few minutes I would be highly
>             embarrassed.
>
>             IX-AU A++
>
>             Megaport A++
>
>             Cheers,
>
>             Bob W
>
>             On 1 October 2014 11:18, Sam Silvester
>             <sam.silvester at gmail.com <mailto:sam.silvester at gmail.com>>
>             wrote:
>
>                 +1 to what John said.
>
>                 This kind of thing leads to my personal view that that
>                 PIPE IX isn't really a thing any longer, what with
>                 other IXes actually offering customer service that
>                 allows you to get on with the job.
>
>                 On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:09 AM, John Lindsay
>                 <johnslindsay at mac.com <mailto:johnslindsay at mac.com>>
>                 wrote:
>
>                     Which means your work-around is more likely to
>                     cause their fabric to break later when your old
>                     box is recycled by someone else. Change control
>                     policy as substitute for customer service is
>                     actually just crap customer service.
>
>                     John Lindsay
>
>
>                     > On 1 Oct 2014, at 10:21 am, Brad Gould
>                     <bradley at internode.com.au
>                     <mailto:bradley at internode.com.au>> wrote:
>                     >
>                     > My understanding is that this is all about their
>                     change control policy.
>                     >
>                     > Change the MAC on your router and book a window
>                     to change it back to the native MAC when Pipe can
>                     get their process sorted.
>                     >
>                     > Brad
>                     >
>                     >
>                     >
>                     >
>                     > -----Original Message-----
>                     > From: AusNOG
>                     [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
>                     <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] On
>                     Behalf Of Chris Chaundy
>                     > Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2014 09:36
>                     > To: Joseph Goldman
>                     > Cc: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>                     <mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
>                     > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] PIPE NSW Changing Details
>                     >
>                     > Dependent on your make of router, it may just be
>                     easier to change the MAC address for the interface
>                     on the new router to match the old router's one.
>                     >
>                     > Sent from my iPhone
>                     >
>                     >> On 1 Oct 2014, at 9:15, Joseph Goldman
>                     <joe at apcs.com.au <mailto:joe at apcs.com.au>> wrote:
>                     >>
>                     >> Hi list,
>                     >>
>                     >> I am just wondering if this is normal - trying
>                     to change MAC address for router port after urgent
>                     change-over for our PIPE peering connection in
>                     NSW, request was sent through to the MACD team but
>                     they are telling me the request needs to be
>                     approved by their management and ETA is 3-5
>                     business days??
>                     >>
>                     >> I'm not a massive user of PIPE IX but I have
>                     now been without it for 24 hours and its looking
>                     like it could be another 48-72 hours before
>                     getting it back! For someone who might get a LOT
>                     of their traffic via PIPE IX this would be a
>                     pretty bad amount of downtime, as other transit
>                     links would have to pick up the slack.
>                     >>
>                     >> If any PIPE engineers on list willing to help
>                     the request move a little quicker I'd appreciate it.
>                     >>
>                     >> Thanks,
>                     >> Joe
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