[AusNOG] NBNCo Tails to Plane Seats?

[Mark ZZZ Smith]

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> From: John Lindsay <johnslindsay at mac.com>
>To: Paul Julian <paul at oxygennetworks.com.au> 
>Cc: "ausnog at ausnog.net" <ausnog at ausnog.net> 
>Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2014, 10:20
>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBNCo Tails to Plane Seats?
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>There is no reason the airlines couldn't have done this with IPStar already. 
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>This smells more like an attempt to get Telstra to drop their price for a USA style service based on mobile base stations with antennas pointing up. You get a much better, faster, lower latency service than with satellite. 

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At face value this application was the only reason that I could see to justify the launching of satellites, however if mobile base stations with antennas point up works then that defeats this application of satellites too.

I think that most people who advocate satellites don't have an appreciation as to how much impact latency has on end-user experience. I think satellite should only be the absolute last resort once every other terrestrial and therefore much low latency option has been considered and isn't possible.

In particular, I'd like to see evaluation of alternative technologies for rural use like IEEE 802.22 which uses TV "white spaces" (unused channel frequencies) that can apparently support ranges of up to 100Kms for fixed base stations (there might be less technical/high level presentations available, that is one that showed up via a Google search and is an IEEE one)

http://www.ieee802.org/22/Technology/22-10-0073-03-0000-802-22-overview-and-core-technologies.pdf

A chain of point-to-point wireless links with an 802.22 cell on the end of it to reach a remote rural site would provide a much better Internet experience than the satellite alternative. With the amount of money NBNco are to be spending on launching their own satellites, I think that would buy plenty of 802.22 cells and interconnecting infrastructure instead.

Regards,
Mark.
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>John Lindsay
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>On 29 Nov 2014, at 10:11 am, Paul Julian <paul at oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote:
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>I find that pretty funny considering that they can’t even provide a decent service to their Sat customers now, they should be focussing on their core business of serving regional Australia, not planes, those new satellites will be heavily utilised from day one virtually.
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>Regards
>Paul
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>From:AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
>Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2014 2:34 AM
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>Subject: [AusNOG] NBNCo Tails to Plane Seats?
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>This is interesting... wonder how they will sell it and if RSPs will be involved.
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>http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/government-it/nbn-satellites-to-allow-for-inflight-wifi-on-qantas-and-virgin-20141127-11vvse.html
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>...Skeeve
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