[AusNOG] Offsite Storage

[Jacob Gardiner]

That doesn't matter, they're a U.S. company and still subject to the
patriot act even when operating outside the U.S.

On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <
Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com> wrote:

>  Where do AWS store this data as in which governments’ laws come in to
> play. Do AWS have tin in Australia and can you make the data stay only in
> Australia?
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> Alex
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> *From:* Barry Murphy [mailto:barry at vibecommunications.co.nz
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','barry at vibecommunications.co.nz');>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 November 2014 3:19 PM
> *To:* Alex Samad - Yieldbroker; Peter Tiggerdine
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
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> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Offsite Storage
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> Sounds like a small amount of data, tried Amazon S3 or something similar?
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> Amazon allows you to ‘mount’ a virtual tape drive in their cloud and you
> can set it to have 7 tapes and rotate them daily etc.
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> http://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/create-a-virtual-tape-library-using-the-aws-storage-gateway
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> You can then have backups older than X days go into glacier rather than
> the more expensive S3 if you wanted.
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> Kind regards,
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> *Barry Murphy* / *Chief Operating Officer*
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> *From: *Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com');>>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 26 November 2014 5:10 pm
> *To: *Peter Tiggerdine <ptiggerdine at gmail.com
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> *Cc: *"ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog at lists.ausnog.net');>" <
> ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
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> *Subject: *Re: [AusNOG] Offsite Storage
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> Yes
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> My current investigation is small amount of data ~ 10-20G of core data.
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> We are happy with our current backup regime but we don’t account for
> malicious loss of data. IE all the backups are available on the network
> somebody can delete everything online.  Offsite gives you protection from
> that.
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> Currently the old tape backup unit isn’t functioning, we are looking at
> around ~10-15K for a server / storage / drive / tapes.  I could also but
> some external HD’s, write to them over nite and then ship them off during
> the day. With the cost of SSD and their size coming down that’s even more
> attractive.
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> What I would really like is some virtual tape library available over Mega
> Port, where somebody else looks after tape management or virtual tapes, as
> long as I need some process which includes authorisation to bring the tapes
> back on line.  But at the right price J
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> Alex
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> *From:* Peter Tiggerdine [mailto:ptiggerdine at gmail.com
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 November 2014 2:57 PM
> *To:* Alex Samad - Yieldbroker
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
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> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Offsite Storage
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> Pundits have being declaring this for 20 years and it still hasn't
> happened.
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> Tape has it's place as does D2D backup.
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> The answer to your question is "it depends" on "
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> Organisation size and maturity.
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> DR Plan
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> Backup/Recovery Plan
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> Budget
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> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <
> Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com');>> wrote:
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> Hi
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> Wondering what people are doing for offsite store / backups. Looking at
> http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/11/26/0044239/is-lto-tape-on-its-way-out
> LTO tapes sales are down.  People are backing up to disk.
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> But what are people doing for offsite.  Removable HDs ?
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> Alex
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