That doesn't matter, they're a U.S. company and still subject to the patriot act even when operating outside the U.S. <span></span><br><br>On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <<a href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Where do AWS store this data as in which governments’ laws come in to play. Do AWS have tin in Australia and can you make the data stay only in Australia?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 26 November 2014 3:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex Samad - Yieldbroker; Peter Tiggerdine<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Offsite Storage<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Sounds like a small amount of data, tried Amazon S3 or something similar?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Amazon allows you to ‘mount’ a virtual tape drive in their cloud and you can set it to have 7 tapes and rotate them daily etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">See <a href="http://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/create-a-virtual-tape-library-using-the-aws-storage-gateway" target="_blank">http://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/create-a-virtual-tape-library-using-the-aws-storage-gateway</a>/<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">You can then have backups older than X days go into glacier rather than the more expensive S3 if you wanted.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#7f7f7f">Kind regards,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Barry Murphy</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> / </span><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#ff9e01">Chief
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com');" target="_blank">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 26 November 2014 5:10 pm<br>
<b>To: </b>Peter Tiggerdine <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ptiggerdine@gmail.com');" target="_blank">ptiggerdine@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog@lists.ausnog.net');" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog@lists.ausnog.net');" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [AusNOG] Offsite Storage<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">My current investigation is small amount of data ~ 10-20G of core data.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We are happy with our current backup regime but we don’t account for malicious loss of data. IE all the backups are available on the network somebody can delete
everything online. Offsite gives you protection from that.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Currently the old tape backup unit isn’t functioning, we are looking at around ~10-15K for a server / storage / drive / tapes. I could also but some external
HD’s, write to them over nite and then ship them off during the day. With the cost of SSD and their size coming down that’s even more attractive.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">What I would really like is some virtual tape library available over Mega Port, where somebody else looks after tape management or virtual tapes, as long as
I need some process which includes authorisation to bring the tapes back on line. But at the right price
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 26 November 2014 2:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex Samad - Yieldbroker<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Offsite Storage</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Tape has it's place as does D2D backup.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com');" target="_blank">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Wondering what people are doing for offsite store / backups. Looking at <a href="http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/11/26/0044239/is-lto-tape-on-its-way-out" target="_blank">
http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/11/26/0044239/is-lto-tape-on-its-way-out</a> LTO tapes sales are down. People are backing up to disk.<br>
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But what are people doing for offsite. Removable HDs ?<br>
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