[AusNOG] New industry body to represent ISPs. (was Re: Re RackCentral

[Paul Brooks]

+1 John - Its not even the first time - and yes, this needs a new thread to separate
it from the amateur lawyers on the RackCentral thread.

I've posted before about the IIA - the Internet Industry Association. You guys let
that die by failing to support it, and it fell over in March this year, transferring
its IP into Comms Alliance.

Before that was SPAN - Service Provider's Action Network - basically everyone except
Telstra, set up to further the needs of the rest of the industry lobbying against Telstra.
It went broke and merged with ACIF (Australian Communications Industry Forum) to form
Communications Alliance in 2006.

ATUG was around for a long time, representing the interests of large business uses of
telecommunications - but it was a victim of its own success.

Calling for a *someone* that *aught to do something* to protect ISP's interests misses
the whole point. Its *you* that aughta do something. You've had two or three such
organisations in the past many years, and you've let them all die. The only people
that can represent your interests are *you* - and if you form another representative
body to lobby government, you've got to resource it appropriately with *real money*
and *real people*, or you'll get the same result.

If you've got nobody spending your lobbying budget flying (or driving or taking the
bus) to Canberra to speak to those who need to be educated, you've only got yourself
to blame if the outcome isn't to your liking.


On 18/11/2014 10:09 PM, John Lindsay wrote:
> The function of industry associations is to speak to government on behalf of
> industry to ensure the laws that regulators enforce and courts arbitrate on are
> workable and fair. 
>
> You all had your chance to keep a 20 year old established respected association alive. 
>
> Now you're getting the law you deserve for letting it  die. 
>
> The pain as it is enforced and arbitrated will be a lesson for all. 
>
> John Lindsay
>
> On 18 Nov 2014, at 2:46 pm, Jacob Gardiner <jacob at jacobgardiner.com
> <mailto:jacob at jacobgardiner.com>> wrote:
>
>> With all do respect, do you really think that a community based internet society
>> (of sorts) should be deciding at all who is allowed to undertake business within
>> Australia, regardless of industry? That's the job of the government and legal system. 
>
>
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