[AusNOG] Re RackCentral

[John Lindsay]

ISOC and CommsAlliance exist for particular purposes.

ISOC is focused on users, technology and public policy:

From their website: The Internet Society of Australia, ISOC-AU, was founded in 1996. It is a non-profit, user-focused organisation which promotes development of the Internet in Australia to benefit the whole community, including business, academic, professional, and private Internet users.

And: ISOC-AU provides technically knowledgeable advice on Internet development and public policy.

CommsAlliance is an industry organisation that delivers self regulation. It started as a Telco industry body and pre-dates the commercial Internet in Australia.

CA has a structure that ensures it concentrates on telco industry self regulation and public policy.  

It doesn’t really have much involvement in the Internet other than being the recipient of the IIA’s intellectual property when IIA was wound up.

CA can’t do anything unless its Board agrees and that board is largely made up of old school telco people.

If you have a CommsAlliance Board election  vote you should vote for Matt Tett right now.

If you think either of these bodies represents your interests you and/or your organisation should join.

Cheers,

John Lindsay
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> On 18 Nov 2014, at 12:18 pm, Ben Cooper <ben at zeno.io> wrote:
> 
> ISOC-AU? Comms-Alliance?
> 
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:46 AM, John Lindsay <johnslindsay at mac.com <mailto:johnslindsay at mac.com>> wrote:
> I cajoled Simon, Michael and Bevan into keeping the old IIA alive for three years but the organisations represented in this list didn't support it so the directors had no choice but to wind it up. 
> 
> Feel free to have another go. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John Lindsay
> 
> On 18 Nov 2014, at 12:11 pm, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com <mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Exactly... Someone needs to get one going.... or an existing entity setup something to represent us.
>> 
>> 
>> ...Skeeve
>> 
>> Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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>> On 18 November 2014 12:39, John Lindsay <johnslindsay at mac.com <mailto:johnslindsay at mac.com>> wrote:
>> What Internet industry association do you mean?
>> 
>> This isn't one now. 
>> 
>> John Lindsay
>> 
>> On 18 Nov 2014, at 9:59 am, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com <mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Perhaps one of our useful *cough* industry associations could offer this as a service.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ...Skeeve
>>> 
>>> Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com <mailto:skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com> ; www.eintellegonetworks.com <http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/>
>>> Phone: 1300 239 038 <tel:1300%20239%20038>; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 <tel:%2B61%20%280%29414%20753%20383> ; skype://skeeve <>
>>> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks <http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ;  <http://twitter.com/networkceoau>linkedin.com/in/skeeve <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> 
>>> twitter.com/theispguy <http://twitter.com/theispguy> ; blog: www.theispguy.com <http://www.theispguy.com/>
>>> 
>>> The Experts Who The Experts Call
>>> Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering
>>> 
>>> On 18 November 2014 10:19, Ross Wheeler <ausnog at rossw.net <mailto:ausnog at rossw.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2014, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is missing in our industry is something like http://www.tica.com.au/ <http://www.tica.com.au/>
>>> for ISPs.  I've known a lot of dodgy providers who just move to another
>>> supplier of services.  It would be great if there was some sort of industry
>>> reporting agency for customer - personal and business.
>>> 
>>> It's been raised (and killed) many times in the last 19 years that *I* know of, but there are legal/regulatory issues that have never been adequately addressed, and AFAIK no system has ever got off the ground.
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