[AusNOG] TPG Routing Issues?

Joseph Goldman joe at apcs.com.au
Sun Nov 9 10:26:11 EST 2014


OK - simple answer... troubleshoot normally:

  - Modem Have Sync?
  - Modem Have Auth?
  - Try in isolation?
  - Try replacement Modem?

  - Call Level 1 helpdesk with results.

You need to treat AusNOG like a NOC - as many of us on here are NOC 
staff - if it multi-service affecting, or complex service affecting, it 
may be worth putting a question out to the list, but it can't be used as 
a bypass to standard support, whether you hate it or not. Quite frankly, 
if you do hate the TPG support - then churn away.

On 09/11/14 10:18, ANSA SERVERS wrote:
> Client is reporting no internet connectivity at all and icmp was working
>
> Regards,
>
> *Matthew Matters *Managing Director / CEO of Aus Net Servers Australia
> Pty Ltd
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> On 9 Nov 2014, at 10:00 am, Joseph Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au
> <mailto:joe at apcs.com.au>> wrote:
>
>> Firewalled doesn't mean all communication is stopped. A lot of
>> networks and a lot of CPE's block ICMP ping/traceroute responses for
>> various reasons. This doesn't mean the service is 'offline' or
>> 'untraceable', it just means the router isn't responding to those
>> specific requests.
>>
>> It is possible TPG block these ICMP requests at their terminating end,
>> but I don't see a particular reason to do that (firewalls create extra
>> CPU), and, although I havent been with TPG for 5+ years as a home
>> user, I never recall not being able to ping my own router (I ran many
>> services behind it and often used ping to check it was up).
>>
>> I specifically configured my router to respond to ICMP ping though.
>>
>> On 09/11/14 09:20, ANSA SERVERS wrote:
>>> So just call tpg?
>>>
>>> I suspect i know why they have been firewalled, if they have and that
>>> would be because of suspected spam from emailing out Christmas
>>> newsletters to 2143 customers
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> *Matthew Matters *Managing Director / CEO of Aus Net Servers Australia
>>> Pty Ltd
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>>> On 9 Nov 2014, at 9:17 am, Daniel <daniel at dwatson.me
>>> <mailto:daniel at dwatson.me>
>>> <mailto:daniel at dwatson.me>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> TPG “generally” do not pass any communication back down the dsl line
>>>> from their LNS, thus it would more then likely stop at the LNS which
>>>> it seems to be
>>>>
>>>> D
>>>>
>>>> *From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of
>>>> *ANSA SERVERS
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 9 November 2014 9:13 AM
>>>> *To:* Noel Butler; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>>> <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>>>> <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] TPG Routing Issues?
>>>>
>>>> Firewalled by what?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
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>>>> Pty Ltd
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>>>> On 9 Nov 2014, at 2:23 am, Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net
>>>> <mailto:noel.butler at ausics.net>
>>>> <mailto:noel.butler at ausics.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    Nor can I, on TPG, that's an LNS address in last hop, so all that
>>>>    says is customer is firewalled.
>>>>
>>>>    On 09/11/2014 00:50, ANSA SERVERS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        Hi,
>>>>
>>>>        Just noticed that i can not seem to connect to TPG from my
>>>>        connection here, USA, Europe and Sydney... Anyone else having
>>>>        issues?
>>>>
>>>>        C:\Users\Matthew Matters>tracert 27.32.208.70
>>>>
>>>>        Tracing route to 27-32-208-70.static.tpgi.com.au
>>>> <http://27-32-208-70.static.tpgi.com.au>
>>>>        <http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XX4QZxvYW8r56Qn1p1Fc4W63RzZn56dvWVf472n5202?t=http%3a%2f%2f27-32-208-70.static.tpgi.com.au&si=4827875764076544&pi=00a3a80f5fa4481aa77a3626bf3170c1>
>>>>        [27.32.208.70]
>>>>
>>>>        over a maximum of 30 hops:
>>>>
>>>>          1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms
>>>> core1-link02.vic.ausnetservers.net.au
>>>> <http://core1-link02.vic.ausnetservers.net.au>
>>>>        <http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XX4QZxvYW8r56Qn1p1Fc4W63RzZn56dvWVf472n5202?t=http%3a%2f%2fcore1-link02.vic.ausnetservers.net.au&si=4827875764076544&pi=00a3a80f5fa4481aa77a3626bf3170c1>
>>>>        [10.16.101
>>>>
>>>>        .254]
>>>>
>>>>          2    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms
>>>> static-103-243-239-1.vic.ausnetservers.net.au
>>>> <http://static-103-243-239-1.vic.ausnetservers.net.au>
>>>>        <http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XX4QZxvYW8r56Qn1p1Fc4W63RzZn56dvWVf472n5202?t=http%3a%2f%2fstatic-103-243-239-1.vic.ausnetservers.net.au&si=4827875764076544&pi=00a3a80f5fa4481aa77a3626bf3170c1>
>>>>        [1
>>>>
>>>>        03.243.239.1]
>>>>
>>>>          3    10 ms     8 ms     8 ms  172.17.0.1
>>>>
>>>>          4     7 ms     8 ms     7 ms
>>>>         ae0-128.cr01-neer.bal.ncable.net.au
>>>> <http://cr01-neer.bal.ncable.net.au>
>>>>        <http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XX4QZxvYW8r56Qn1p1Fc4W63RzZn56dvWVf472n5202?t=http%3a%2f%2fcr01-neer.bal.ncable.net.au&si=4827875764076544&pi=00a3a80f5fa4481aa77a3626bf3170c1>
>>>>        [203.208.67.
>>>>
>>>>        130]
>>>>
>>>>          5    13 ms    20 ms    12 ms
>>>>         xe-0-3-1-450.cr1.mel4.on.ii.net <http://cr1.mel4.on.ii.net>
>>>>        <http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XX4QZxvYW8r56Qn1p1Fc4W63RzZn56dvWVf472n5202?t=http%3a%2f%2fcr1.mel4.on.ii.net&si=4827875764076544&pi=00a3a80f5fa4481aa77a3626bf3170c1>
>>>>        [150.101.33.225]
>>>>
>>>>          6    52 ms    49 ms    49 ms  ae1.cr1.adl2.on.ii.net
>>>> <http://cr1.adl2.on.ii.net>
>>>>        <http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XX4QZxvYW8r56Qn1p1Fc4W63RzZn56dvWVf472n5202?t=http%3a%2f%2fcr1.adl2.on.ii.net&si=4827875764076544&pi=00a3a80f5fa4481aa77a3626bf3170c1>
>>>>        [150.101.33.41]
>>>>
>>>>          7    50 ms    49 ms    49 ms  ae2.cr1.per4.on.ii.net
>>>> <http://cr1.per4.on.ii.net>
>>>>        <http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XX4QZxvYW8r56Qn1p1Fc4W63RzZn56dvWVf472n5202?t=http%3a%2f%2fcr1.per4.on.ii.net&si=4827875764076544&pi=00a3a80f5fa4481aa77a3626bf3170c1>
>>>>        [150.101.33.39]
>>>>
>>>>          8    52 ms    49 ms    50 ms  ae0.cr1.per1.on.ii.net
>>>> <http://cr1.per1.on.ii.net>
>>>>        <http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XX4QZxvYW8r56Qn1p1Fc4W63RzZn56dvWVf472n5202?t=http%3a%2f%2fcr1.per1.on.ii.net&si=4827875764076544&pi=00a3a80f5fa4481aa77a3626bf3170c1>
>>>>        [150.101.34.171]
>>>>
>>>>          9    51 ms    52 ms    48 ms tpgi.ix.waia.asn.au
>>>> <http://tpgi.ix.waia.asn.au>
>>>>        <http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XX4QZxvYW8r56Qn1p1Fc4W63RzZn56dvWVf472n5202?t=http%3a%2f%2ftpgi.ix.waia.asn.au&si=4827875764076544&pi=00a3a80f5fa4481aa77a3626bf3170c1>
>>>>        [198.32.212.17]
>>>>
>>>>         10    71 ms    72 ms    73 ms
>>>> nme-sot-dry-agr2-te2-7.tpgi.com.au
>>>> <http://nme-sot-dry-agr2-te2-7.tpgi.com.au>
>>>>        <http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XX4QZxvYW8r56Qn1p1Fc4W63RzZn56dvWVf472n5202?t=http%3a%2f%2fnme-sot-dry-agr2-te2-7.tpgi.com.au&si=4827875764076544&pi=00a3a80f5fa4481aa77a3626bf3170c1>
>>>>        [203.26.22.23
>>>>
>>>>        0]
>>>>
>>>>         11    73 ms    73 ms    76 ms  202.7.173.70
>>>>
>>>>         12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>>>>
>>>>         13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>>>>
>>>>         14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>>>>
>>>>         15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>>>>
>>>>         16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>>>>
>>>>         17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>>>>
>>>>        Regards,
>>>>
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