[AusNOG] Cisco 3750-X vs 3850

Beeson, Ayden ABeeson at csu.edu.au
Thu May 22 17:14:40 EST 2014


We are in the same position now, all new switches we buy are 3850s

Just fyi, the documentation says that the 3850 only stacks 4 at a time but that has been fixed in new versions, stack power I believe is still limited to 4 that obviously that is less critical.

Another plus, they are slightly less deep than the 3750x as well which can be handy to know...

Cheers,
Ayden

On 22/05/2014 4:45 pm, Matt Walker <matt.g.walker at outlook.com> wrote:

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+2 to Brad

We only buy 3750X if we are growing an old stack that hasn't reached it's upgrade date

Otherwise 3850's are an amazing choice

If/when you go down WLC Path you can have a 5508 control the 3850 etc in a mesh controller architecture

Cheers
Matt

> On 22 May 2014, at 4:03 pm, "Damian Guppy" <the.damo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 to brads comments. We have moved over to the 3850's long ago. Not
> sure why Skeeve brought up wireless as the 3750x also had a line that
> did the wireless stuff (just not as well).
>
> Of note is the 3850 is based on ciscos new IOS XE platform and is not
> really an updated version of the 3750 but a whole new switching
> platform.
>
> --Damian
>
> Sent from my Windows PhoneFrom: Brad Peczka
> Sent: ‎22/‎05/‎2014 1:32 PM
> To: Skeeve Stevens; P. D. Castle
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco 3750-X vs 3850
> A 3850 is hardly just a 3750X, Skeeve.
>
> The stacking architecture on the 3850-series switches has been
> radically overhauled when compared to the 3750X. It has vastly
> superior stack bandwidth (480Gbps compared to 64Gbps) and features SSO
> across the stack - so if you cable it correctly and a switch dies,
> another one takes over and the stack keeps running without a drop.
>
> 3850s have bigger flash, more queues per port, QoS using MQC and not
> MLS, and support NetFlow!
>
> IMHO - if you're buying new switches, there is no case where you would
> buy a 3750X over a 3850 unless you're trying to expand an existing
> stack.
>
> Regards,
> -Brad.
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> Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 1:24 PM
> To: P. D. Castle
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco 3750-X vs 3850
>
> I think if you don't use wireless in the deployment context, then
> these are just 3750X's.
>
>
> ...Skeeve
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> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:55 PM, P. D. Castle
> <peter at castle.on.net<mailto:peter at castle.on.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> We have an environment with a large quantity of 3750-Xs (several PoE
> and non-PoE variants) is use as access switches. For a separate server
> access segement I've now had quotes for 3850s. The literature looks
> attractive, not that we need the extra 10GE capacity or wlan
> controller yet but I'm wondering if it is worthwhile starting down the
> 3850 path.
>
> Has anyone had some experience with these in production as yet and any
> shortfalls/issues I should be aware of? Strictly ip-base at present.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
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