[AusNOG] Interesting

Mark Currie MCurrie at laserfast.com.au
Wed May 14 11:07:21 EST 2014


Anyone one else think that this might be some legislation/scheme that has been "encouraged" to be enacted by the US Govt/Feds as a kind of compensation for the monumental fubar NZ made of the whole Mega/Kim Dotcom bust?

- Mark C
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On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:10:14PM +0930, John Lindsay wrote:
> Most of the globals aren't "in" NZ so whatever. 

They're in NZ if NZ says they're in NZ.  The funny thing about multinationals is that they tend to have *something* going on everywhere. 
Even if you don't have any *business* operations in the country, the first time some executive goes there for a skiing holiday, they end up being arrested for the "crimes" of the company.  While I think NZ would be *nuts* to do it, I think they're nuts for having rolled out this regulation in the first place, so at this point, we're already in the Twilight Zone.

IIRC that sort of thing happened to someone from a big Australian company involving China somehow (either they went *to* China and got arrested, or they were of Chinese origin and got arrested somewhere else...  don't recall, and my Google fu is failing).  Hell, the US is *famous* for this sort of shenanigan -- judgment in absentia, wait a while, then when the person thinks the heat is off and goes somewhere US-friendly, the next thing they know they're taking a very extended holiday in a Federal pound-you-in-the-ass.  Perhaps they don't even wait -- Experian's favourite Vietnamese customer got lured to Guam, and it was all over for him (and quite rightly so, I might add, just in case someone thinks I'm pro-identity theft).

My point is, avoiding a country *entirely* is very hard for a modern company, and countries have astonishing latitude to do stupid shit within their borders with very little consequence.

- Matt

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"You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means."
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