[AusNOG] Going beyond ADSL in a non-NBN world

Karl Hardisty karl at mothership.co.nz
Tue Mar 25 14:32:45 EST 2014


We’ve had a 120 bridged to an AE running at home here in Auckland for 3 years+ (we live in almost in the hills, so nothing faster for us yet). The only time it’s dropped was when I installed a master filter. We’ve used them with a number of clients as well, and can’t fault them so far (apart from their interesting approach to PPoE - but it still works). 

k.

lE karl at mothership.co.nz lW mothership.co.nz  lA PO Box 99814, Newmarket  lM 021 999 990 lP 974 3171 

On 25/03/2014, at 1:13 pm, Fraser McGlinn <fraser at frizianz.com> wrote:

> Just to add to everyone else's comments, I've had no issues with my DrayTek Vigor 120 bridged to a x86 Mikrotik either.
> 
> Is this maybe an issue isolated to Aus? I presume Alexander you are based in NZ (based on your .nz domain), which is the same as myself.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Fraser
> 
> On 25/03/14 12:28, Alexander Neilson wrote:
>> This is interesting
>> 
>> I have had a DrayTek Vigor 120 in bridge mode running with a Mikrotik RB2011 powering my internet at the flat for 2 years now and apart from one time when I hit the reset button accidentally and wipe the DrayTek config (not the DrayTek’s fault) it has performed flawlessly on the link at both the old place and the new, none of these disconnections or config corruption.
>> 
>> It may just be a case of software version or a bad unit / batch.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Alexander
>> 
>> Alexander Neilson
>> Neilson Productions Limited
>> 
>> alexander at neilson.net.nz
>> 021 329 681
>> 022 456 2326
>> 
>> On 25/03/2014, at 12:23 pm, James Hodgkinson <yaleman at ricetek.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've had a similar issue with Vigor120's in bridge mode using a Mikrotik RB750g.... endless disconnects because after power outs the Draytek tends to corrupt its config, which requires many hours of swearing to get it *just* right again.
>>> 
>>> Swapped it out with a Billion, fixed!
>>> 
>>> James
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 25 March 2014 08:47, Jake Anderson <yahoo at vapourforge.com> wrote:
>>> On 24/03/14 23:20, Karl Auer wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 22:42 +1100, Guy Ellis wrote:
>>> I think the key to your problem is...
>>> "At the moment most of our sites use a standard consumer-grade ADSL
>>> modem in bridging mode"
>>> That would imply that you don't have access to any DSL stats from the modem?
>>> Certainly not all, but definitely some ADSL router/modems continue to be
>>> addressable in bridge mode. Even some low-end models, like the Draytek
>>> Vigor120, provide line stats even when in bridge mode. It doesn't seem
>>> to be the sort of thing they put in the spec sheets though, so a bit
>>> hard to find out before you buy.
>>> 
>>> Regards, K.
>>> 
>>> Just a small heads up for this particular OP.
>>> I've had issues with draytec's in bridge mode with linux PPPoE running through them dumping the connection every hour and 6 minutes.
>>> They may well have fixed it by now they were very rapid to respond to a query on WP but I never followed up as I swapped out the modem before doing any further diagnostics.
>>> 
>>> So do a test somewhere you can easily access before putting it in the back side of whoop whoop.
>>> 
>>> Other than that they are nice gear and I use them in several locations non bridged.
>>> 
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