<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">We’ve had a 120 bridged to an AE running at home here in Auckland for 3 years+ (we live in almost in the hills, so nothing faster for us yet). The only time it’s dropped was when I installed a master filter. We’ve used them with a number of clients as well, and can’t fault them so far (apart from their interesting approach to PPoE - but it still works). <div><br></div><div>k.<br><div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On 25/03/2014, at 1:13 pm, Fraser McGlinn <<a href="mailto:fraser@frizianz.com">fraser@frizianz.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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Just to add to everyone else's comments, I've had no issues with my
DrayTek Vigor 120 bridged to a x86 Mikrotik either.<br>
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Is this maybe an issue isolated to Aus? I presume Alexander you are
based in NZ (based on your .nz domain), which is the same as myself.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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Fraser<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/03/14 12:28, Alexander Neilson
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<div>I have had a DrayTek Vigor 120 in bridge mode running with a
Mikrotik RB2011 powering my internet at the flat for 2 years now
and apart from one time when I hit the reset button accidentally
and wipe the DrayTek config (not the DrayTek’s fault) it has
performed flawlessly on the link at both the old place and the
new, none of these disconnections or config corruption.</div>
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<div>It may just be a case of software version or a bad unit /
batch.</div>
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<div>Regards</div>
<div>Alexander</div>
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<div>On 25/03/2014, at 12:23 pm, James Hodgkinson <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:yaleman@ricetek.net">yaleman@ricetek.net</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">I've had a similar issue with Vigor120's in
bridge mode using a Mikrotik RB750g.... endless
disconnects because after power outs the Draytek tends to
corrupt its config, which requires many hours of swearing
to get it *just* right again.
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<div>Swapped it out with a Billion, fixed!</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 25 March 2014 08:47, Jake
Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:yahoo@vapourforge.com" target="_blank">yahoo@vapourforge.com</a>></span>
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<div class="">On 24/03/14 23:20, Karl Auer wrote:<br>
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On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 22:42 +1100, Guy Ellis
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I think the key to your problem is...<br>
"At the moment most of our sites use a standard
consumer-grade ADSL<br>
modem in bridging mode"<br>
That would imply that you don't have access to
any DSL stats from the modem?<br>
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Certainly not all, but definitely some ADSL
router/modems continue to be<br>
addressable in bridge mode. Even some low-end
models, like the Draytek<br>
Vigor120, provide line stats even when in bridge
mode. It doesn't seem<br>
to be the sort of thing they put in the spec
sheets though, so a bit<br>
hard to find out before you buy.<br>
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Regards, K.<br>
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Just a small heads up for this particular OP.<br>
I've had issues with draytec's in bridge mode with
linux PPPoE running through them dumping the
connection every hour and 6 minutes.<br>
They may well have fixed it by now they were very
rapid to respond to a query on WP but I never followed
up as I swapped out the modem before doing any further
diagnostics.<br>
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So do a test somewhere you can easily access before
putting it in the back side of whoop whoop.<br>
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Other than that they are nice gear and I use them in
several locations non bridged.
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