[AusNOG] Mixing tech stuff

[Joseph Goldman]

This is going widely off-topic, but for interests sake there have been a 
lot of controversy over the 'Solar Freakin Roadways' and some good 
points made by an online persona 'thunderf00t' that discredits a LOT of 
the solar roadways benefits, making it incredibly bad idea. All the 
stats etc are based off of the US though.

Videos here: https://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t

First main one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H901KdXgHs4

And response to Solar Roadways backlash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocV-RnVQdcs

Having said that, my on topic thought about building out Fiber along 
with roadworks is that I believe the roadworks plans should have 
availability for pits and ducts in the design, not an afterthought, but 
laying the actual cable would probably be troublesome as I'd imagine the 
road crews likely not taking enough care with diggers etc. So build in 
the infrastructure for cable pulling, then come through and pull it 
after the fact, which I believe is how most roads are built now anyways. 
The highway upgrade near me, you can easily see many ducts running 
underneath the overpass' etc that are obviously for different parts of 
infrastructure, and nicely spaced pits along the roadside.

On 19/06/14 10:24, Jake Anderson wrote:
> Actually in that regard it should be better, first they have a strong 
> concrete foundation which will stop weeds, and on top of that they 
> have a glass surface as the actual road member, that will be pretty 
> much immune to any of the conventional attacks on the road surface, 
> though I do worry some about hoons doing burnouts and they will 
> obviously be damaged during a serious crash.
>
> I wonder if a compromise could be made to create a flexible roadway 
> surface based on the tiles.
> Some kind of (stainless?) steel webbing interlocking all the tiles, 
> sit that atop an impermeable membrane of some kind over the standard 
> road base.
> Going to be a lot more work than pouring dinosaurs over crushed up 
> rocks though ;->
>
> On 19/06/14 10:15, James Hodgkinson wrote:
>> My first question with these solar tiles is this - if we can't keep 
>> weeds and cracks out of our existing concrete/tiled pathways and 
>> roadways, what are we going to do when we build our entire 
>> infrastructure out of interlocking tiles?
>>
>> Also... if you actually read into the design of roadways, one of the 
>> major issues is water getting under the sealed surface and eating it 
>> away, the other is heat expansion/contraction ruining its integrity. 
>> Without some sort of (endlessly maintained) seal, the road surface 
>> will only last for short times.
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> On 19 June 2014 09:41, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker 
>> <Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com <mailto:Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi
>>
>>     So I was reading something that I think it rather a good idea and
>>     that got me to thinking why it wouldn't happen in Australia ..
>>
>>     http://www.smh.com.au/comment/on-the-hot-road-to-cooler-highways-20140618-zsd94.html
>>
>>     But it also got me thinking why you couldn't mix this with say a
>>     NBN roll out. If you are redoing major roads couldn't you also
>>     install fibre... Share the cost of a Fibre NBN roll out. Seems
>>     like a win win win...
>>
>>     I still dream about a NBN fttp ...
>>
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