[AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB

[Nathan Brookfield]

Has anyone else found that every VIC/SA service they have this morning dropped at approximately 0530hrs and did not come back online? I am finding if I log-in to Frontier and rebuild the AAPT DSLAM port the service comes back online but otherwise cannot be restored from a power cycle etc.

Kindest Regards,
Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)

Chief Executive Officer
Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd

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From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker
Sent: Friday, 6 June 2014 9:46 AM
To: Shane Short; Rod Veith
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB

Like any good business they compete on profits.  Not best product or best service.  Why should 2 companies compete when they can divide …

A

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Shane Short
Sent: Friday, 6 June 2014 1:00 AM
To: Rod Veith
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB

Competition has been our apparent saviour for the last mile for the last decade (or when the local-loop was deregulated, whichever was first), but it's never come. This whole notion of "leave it up to the Telco's, they'll compete and everyone wins" is complete bullshit. Telco's cherry-pick last mile installations that make sense to them-- ignoring everybody else; which amusingly, is exactly where we are now.

I'm not saying a regulated incumbent last mile provider isn't without it's flaws, but in my mind it's the best option we've got.

-Shane


Rod Veith wrote:

I can just see me under the last mile competition scenario calling ‘my telco’ and asking them to put on the internet for me in my cul-de-sac court in ‘name-your-suburb’ and having them say:


1.      Not a problem Rod, we’ll do that for you, it will take 2 days  ---  after our planning people take 2-12 months looking at your request (sorry we’re snowed under with everyone wanting access to the internet and phone services), another 2-3 months co-ordinating with the duct owner to obtain duct access, 1 day to install termination box in house,  2-3 months delay queuing with the civil works section (they are flat out as well), 3 days hauling cable to your house, another 3 months as the completion request got lost somewhere, another visit to connect fibre router, 1 min to turn on service -  oops wrong house, sorry what address are you at again?  And this assumes they already have fibre to your nearest node point or


2.      (Delay as the customer service representative stifles some laughter after looking up your address), sorry Mr Rod we do not service that area, please check back with us in 2 years time.

Rod


From: Paul Wallace [mailto:paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 5 June 2014 7:43 PM
To: Graeme Allen; Rod Veith; ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB

Rod –

Could you kindly set out your reasoning in support of your contention that “It is the last place competition makes sense.”

?? thanks

-P





From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Graeme Allen
Sent: Thursday, 5 June 2014 7:17 PM
To: Rod Veith; ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB

Here here! A single regulated national railway to Sydney is all we will ever need. Legislate those pesky airlines and roads out of existence, put in non-complete clauses so no-one can ever build anything else ever again, and we can all live in a prescribed governmental nirvana, its a model that's been proven to work again and again.
On 5 June 2014 19:04:25 GMT+10:00, Rod Veith <rod at rb.net.au<mailto:rod at rb.net.au>> wrote:

Quote Paul "…… Last mile infrastructure competition would be a huge bonus for Australian consumers."

It is the last place competition makes sense. Should we also have 4 providers of railway lines to Sydney? or 3 driveways into your house?

A national provider, under regulation, makes the most sense for Australia. Competition is not right cure for all problems.

Rod

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