[AusNOG] Commsday: Slingshot to open access to Netflix in New Zealand

Mon Jul 7 11:02:38 EST 2014

I'd like to understand why you think it is copyright infringement... you
might be right, but my feeling (not valid for legal purposes) is that it
wouldn't be.

You are subscribing to a service, who are paying for the content... and you
are paying them.

If I was a US resident travelling in AU/NZ and used a VPN to watch my
Netflix subscription... is that illegal?  Is it the location you are
watching, or the location of the subscriber?

Also, what about Netflix original content - House of Cards, Orange is the
new Black? Surely they are allowed to let us watch that?  Or is that
allowed, and now we're actually talking about which specific content we
watch?  In which case, isn't that pushed back onto Netflix?

...Skeeve

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On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Serge Burjak <sburjak at systech.com.au>
wrote:

> Strictly speaking, it's still copyright infringement. The fact you pay
> for it doesn't make it better. It's like getting an MS licence and
> saying you are student, but using it in a business. It's against the
> T&Cs.
>
> It would make a LOT of sense for Netflix to open in Australia next.
> The pent up demand would be huge, if they could get a decent range of
> programming, another problem. I think we are more literate in area
> than parts of Europe, their next destination.
>
> On 7 July 2014 10:36, Steve Kurzeja <steve.kurzeja at gmail.com> wrote:
> > That announcement is a bit short on the detail. Its been operating for a
> > year now, launched as a free opt-in option for Slingshot customers. Now
> its
> > on by default.
> >
> > For more detail this artcile covers most of it:
> >
> http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/60133677/slingshot-opens-global-mode-for-all-users
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Cameron Daniel <cdaniel at nurve.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Maxnet tried this last year, it lasted all of about a week if I remember
> >> correctly
> >>
> >> It'd be nice to see attempt #2 last longer but I'm not particularly
> >> optimistic
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2014-07-07 8:51 am, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well, this is innovative... something I LOVE to see from ISPs.
> >>>
> >>> So, who is going to do this in Australia? If there is no legal
> >>> hurdles, then I can imagine the ISP or transit provider that does this
> >>> would get a lot of interest.
> >>>
> >>> If they won't come to us, then we go to them!
> >>>
> >>> Maybe Vocus could consider it? :)
> >>>
> >>> ...Skeeve
> >>>
> >>> ================
> >>> SLINGSHOT TO OPEN ACCESS TO NETFLIX IN NEW ZEALAND
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> New Zealand ISP Slingshot has turned on its “Global Mode” service
> >>> that alows local customers to access previously blocked sites
> >>> including Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime and BBC iPlayer.
> >>>
> >>> The broadband provider, a subsidiary of CalPlus, is making the service
> >>> available to all customers for free, allowing them to get around
> >>> geographic restrictions.
> >>>
> >>> Slingshot GM Taryn Hamilton told CommsDay the company wasn't expecting
> >>> any legal challenges to the workaround, noting that it was not
> >>> breaking any NZ legislation. He also noted that Australian customers
> >>> had similar chalenges to those in New Zealand.
> >>>
> >>> “We’d be extremely disappointed to se any challenge as this is
> >>> about he NZ consumer, not Slingshot,” Hamilton said. “The
> >>> alternative for many at he moment is to pirate content, which is not
> >>> helping anyone. The model needs to change and hopefully this wil help
> >>> facilitate that.”
> >>>
> >>> Hamilton said the ISP believes the time has come for New Zealanders to
> >>> have the same choice of content hat hose in America and Europe have.
> >>>
> >>> “We know Kiwis want o watch movies and TV series online but are
> >>> blocked from using the world’s best and most popular streaming
> >>> services. We are now giving Kiwis aces to these sites – and an
> >>> option to pay for the content hey want o watch at a fair price.”
> >>>
> >>> Hamilton said the issue extends beyond TV and movies, noting that New
> >>> Zealanders pay significantly more for many technology services and
> >>> products.
> >>>
> >>> The move also comes ahead of launches by Telecom New Zealand and Sky
> >>> TV, both of which are preparing subscription video services for
> >>> consumers.
> >>>
> >>> Geoff Long
> >>> ================
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>> SKEEVE STEVENS - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
> >>>
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> >>>
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