[AusNOG] Commsday: Slingshot to open access to Netflix in New Zealand

[Geordie Guy]

On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Serge Burjak <sburjak at systech.com.au>
wrote:

> Strictly speaking, it's still copyright infringement.


Sadtrombone.wav

This isn't correct.  Strictly speaking.



> The fact you pay
> for it doesn't make it better. It's like getting an MS licence and
> saying you are student, but using it in a business. It's against the
> T&Cs.
>

Copyright infringement is not "doing things against T&Cs".  It has a legal
definition based on... ya know, laws.  We've done this on the AusNOG list
before, and SAGE-AU, and Reddit, and bloody everywhere.  If anyone is
infringing copyright, Netflix is by giving you the content in violation of
the intellectual property distribution agreements they have with
publishers.  Netflix's ToS says that it's not available to people outside
of the territories they officially service, so Netflix is more than welcome
to cut you off for violating those terms of service.  Which I'm sure
they'll be enthusiastically doing to make sure their subscriber numbers and
revenue stay down, a key performance indicator for video SPs I hear.


>
> It would make a LOT of sense for Netflix to open in Australia next.
> The pent up demand would be huge,


How?  If literally every single Australian man, woman and child signed up
for Netflix they'd get 20 million subscribers.  We're a tiny country down
the bottom right, there is no pent up huge demand for literally anything
here on a global scale.  They already have subscribers here.  Why upset the
publishers who want to continue geopricing things by taking subscribers
over the table when you can take the ones that really want your service
under it and not upset your publishers?


> if they could get a decent range of
> programming, another problem. I think we are more literate in area
> than parts of Europe, their next destination.
>
> On 7 July 2014 10:36, Steve Kurzeja <steve.kurzeja at gmail.com> wrote:
> > That announcement is a bit short on the detail. Its been operating for a
> > year now, launched as a free opt-in option for Slingshot customers. Now
> its
> > on by default.
> >
> > For more detail this artcile covers most of it:
> >
> http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/60133677/slingshot-opens-global-mode-for-all-users
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Cameron Daniel <cdaniel at nurve.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Maxnet tried this last year, it lasted all of about a week if I remember
> >> correctly
> >>
> >> It'd be nice to see attempt #2 last longer but I'm not particularly
> >> optimistic
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2014-07-07 8:51 am, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well, this is innovative... something I LOVE to see from ISPs.
> >>>
> >>> So, who is going to do this in Australia? If there is no legal
> >>> hurdles, then I can imagine the ISP or transit provider that does this
> >>> would get a lot of interest.
> >>>
> >>> If they won't come to us, then we go to them!
> >>>
> >>> Maybe Vocus could consider it? :)
> >>>
> >>> ...Skeeve
> >>>
> >>> ================
> >>> SLINGSHOT TO OPEN ACCESS TO NETFLIX IN NEW ZEALAND
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> New Zealand ISP Slingshot has turned on its “Global Mode” service
> >>> that alows local customers to access previously blocked sites
> >>> including Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime and BBC iPlayer.
> >>>
> >>> The broadband provider, a subsidiary of CalPlus, is making the service
> >>> available to all customers for free, allowing them to get around
> >>> geographic restrictions.
> >>>
> >>> Slingshot GM Taryn Hamilton told CommsDay the company wasn't expecting
> >>> any legal challenges to the workaround, noting that it was not
> >>> breaking any NZ legislation. He also noted that Australian customers
> >>> had similar chalenges to those in New Zealand.
> >>>
> >>> “We’d be extremely disappointed to se any challenge as this is
> >>> about he NZ consumer, not Slingshot,” Hamilton said. “The
> >>> alternative for many at he moment is to pirate content, which is not
> >>> helping anyone. The model needs to change and hopefully this wil help
> >>> facilitate that.”
> >>>
> >>> Hamilton said the ISP believes the time has come for New Zealanders to
> >>> have the same choice of content hat hose in America and Europe have.
> >>>
> >>> “We know Kiwis want o watch movies and TV series online but are
> >>> blocked from using the world’s best and most popular streaming
> >>> services. We are now giving Kiwis aces to these sites – and an
> >>> option to pay for the content hey want o watch at a fair price.”
> >>>
> >>> Hamilton said the issue extends beyond TV and movies, noting that New
> >>> Zealanders pay significantly more for many technology services and
> >>> products.
> >>>
> >>> The move also comes ahead of launches by Telecom New Zealand and Sky
> >>> TV, both of which are preparing subscription video services for
> >>> consumers.
> >>>
> >>> Geoff Long
> >>> ================
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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