[AusNOG] Layer 2 NextG Product

[Matt Ayre]

Re Optus

I know we tried this on our Optus 3G product and when it didn't work were
> told that *the Optus network won't route Layer 3 addresses other than the
> pushed framed-ip* to a given 3G SIM.

Certainly this was true from when I last had a go a few years back, it's
not a matter of filtering specific protocols but rather as Andrew has said,
you can't pass a packet with a destination IP they don't know about through
the service/product, even though if I recall correctly it's presented as
vanilla L2TP tunnel.

IP/GRE & IPSec (bridged) definitely worked at the time and you should be
able to frag/reass on most platforms with the range of options (l2tp /
eompls / bridged tunnel) to avoid sub 1500 MTU if you feel it's desirable
in your environment

Cheers,
Matt


On 2 July 2014 13:34, Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au>
wrote:

>  They’ve been around for quite a few years now, first heard of them in
> late 2010 when they started Wholesaling Telstra’s 3G service, we don’t use
> them but seem to have a good team.
>
>
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)
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> Chief Executive Officer
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> *From:* Skeeve Stevens [mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 July 2014 1:27 PM
> *To:* Nathan Brookfield
> *Cc:* Andrew Yager; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
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> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Layer 2 NextG Product
>
>
>
> *blink* Another one... who are they?
>
>
>
> ...Skeeve
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>
> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Nathan Brookfield <
> Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au> wrote:
>
>  www.itelecomwholesale.com.au
>
>
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)
>
>
>
> Chief Executive Officer
>
> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
>
>
>
> *Local:* (02) 4749 4949 *|* *Fax:* (02) 4749 4950 *|* *Direct:* (02) 4749
> 4951
>
> *Web*: http://www.simtronic.com.au *|* *E-mail*:
> nathan.brookfield at simtronic.com.au
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve
> Stevens
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 July 2014 12:59 PM
> *To:* Andrew Yager
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Layer 2 NextG Product
>
>
>
> I've heard that the NextG is available wholesale as 3G, but not their
> 4G... not sure who through though.
>
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
>
>
> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>
> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>
> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>
> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>
> twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
>
>  The Experts Who The Experts Call
>
> Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering
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>
>
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Andrew Yager <andrew at rwts.com.au> wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
>
>
> Just double checking that no-one out there has managed to "convince"
> Telstra to sell them a Layer 2 Next G product? ;)
>
>
>
> How are other people using NextG services to extend their Layer 2
> networks? IPSec over NextG? Other? If this, what are people using as a head
> end (successfully) for the tunnels?
>
>
>
> Has anyone successfully transmitted routes using BGP etc in this method?
>
>
>
> I know we tried this on our Optus 3G product and when it didn't work were
> told that the Optus network won't route Layer 3 addresses other than the
> pushed framed-ip to a given 3G SIM.
>
>
>
> Realise this is a 50 million question scenario…
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
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