[AusNOG] Work experience in networking/telecoms/DCs? Getting my foot in the door?

[Skeeve Stevens]

Does Cisco have any product certification for engineers? or just sales
certification engineers can do?  I'd like to see some where engineers
learnt what features different platforms have.  I realise this changes
regularly, but a baseline should be able to be established...


...Skeeve

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On 23 December 2014 at 15:12, Beeson, Ayden <ABeeson at csu.edu.au> wrote:

> On the topic, Cisco have identified textbook CCIE’s as an issue, they are
> in the process of redoing all their certification tests to better align
> with real world skills, with a lot more simulations and lab tests and a lot
> less multiple choice etc.
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> I know the CCNP TSHOOT exam has been redone as all simulation situations
> with real equipment configurations etc, I know CCNP SWITCH and ROUTE were
> pending the changeover when I last did any of them (a year ago roughly)
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> I think it’s a very good idea and I’m glad that it is happening,
> certifications are not worth a lot if you can hold one without actually
> understanding what you have learnt….
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> Thanks,
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> Ayden Beeson
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Cameron
> Ferdinands
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 December 2014 6:05 PM
> *To:* Skeeve Stevens
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Work experience in networking/telecoms/DCs?
> Getting my foot in the door?
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> That's my one of my favourite interview questions.
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> "Whats your favourite routing protocol?"
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> There only wrong answer is reading a line from a textbook, if you love RIP
> tell me why you love RIP! What's good about it? What's bad about it?
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> On 23 December 2014 at 08:58, Skeeve Stevens <
> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>
> Yup.. had about a dozen last year.  And then even if they do have good
> theoretical knowledge, the other thing missing is experience, common sense
> and product knowledge.  Being a CCIE/NP and not being able to recommend a
> switch model is annoying (for me).
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> ...Skeeve
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> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>
> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
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> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
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> On 23 December 2014 at 08:54, Peter Tiggerdine <ptiggerdine at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I think we've all being in that interview (or heard second hand) with a
> textbook CCIE and when pressed can't seem to explain the simple things.
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> experience is where it's at.
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> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Scott Weeks <surfer at mauigateway.com>
> wrote:
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> --- Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com wrote:
> From: Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com>
>
> Then I would have a look at real work experience,
> not certification boot camps..
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> I wish more folks did this instead of starting off
> interviews with cert-style questions, which seem to
> only test rote memorization skills.
>
> scott
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