[AusNOG] Work experience in networking/telecoms/DCs? Getting my foot in the door?

Beeson, Ayden ABeeson at csu.edu.au
Tue Dec 23 22:09:25 EST 2014 

Cisco finally patched that adding to channel members issue now, at least on the 6500's it tells you that you can't modify channel members rather than breaking it. :-)

Cheers,
Ayden
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---- Nathan Brookfield wrote ----

You just gave me shudders with the memories of that one Andy, I've seen that happen on a very big network, my favorite though is adding VLAN's to an ether channel port directly and not to the port-channel directly 'sigh'.

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On 23 Dec 2014, at 20:49, Andy S. <ciscoarc7 at gmail.com<mailto:ciscoarc7 at gmail.com>> wrote:

I think they have revamped their CCIE now (version 5) which I am gunning (slowly) towards.

One of their bigger change is replacing Frame Relay with DMVPN. Also it is now virtualised and I read it somewhere according to Cisco, it enables them to do 20-ish routers (always changing) topology and can make it more to "real-world".

This hopefully enough to iron out those textbook CCIEs.

I just remember one of my mate told a story about one particular CCIE doing "switchport trunk allowed vlan xxx" instead of "switchport trunk allowed vlan add xxx" and caused an outage. Companies losing money (according to him. It's a stock trading company). Though it's weird they needed more time to address where the issue was.

Regards,
Andy

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Michael Wheeler <michael at michael-wheeler.org<mailto:michael at michael-wheeler.org>> wrote:
Hopefully their exam simulation stuff improves. Twice now I've done an exam and you do something slightly unexpected that's not covered by the text book (but would satisfy the question requirements) and the simulation completely breaks. And not in the since of the network stops working, the actual simulation software does things that just repeats the same command over and over again without letting you enter in any input. Naturally the exam moderator where I do my exams doesn't even know how a router is meant to react nor knows how to tell Cisco that their sim is faulty so I get a failed exam and down a bunch of my own money. In the end I just rote memorized the solution off some website command for command so that the friggin sim wouldn't crash. Yes I feel dirty doing it that way which is why after that cert I haven't done any exams (even though I covered the material).

Interested to see the future of network/communications qualifications...

On 23 December 2014 at 17:12, Beeson, Ayden <ABeeson at csu.edu.au<mailto:ABeeson at csu.edu.au>> wrote:
On the topic, Cisco have identified textbook CCIE’s as an issue, they are in the process of redoing all their certification tests to better align with real world skills, with a lot more simulations and lab tests and a lot less multiple choice etc.

I know the CCNP TSHOOT exam has been redone as all simulation situations with real equipment configurations etc, I know CCNP SWITCH and ROUTE were pending the changeover when I last did any of them (a year ago roughly)

I think it’s a very good idea and I’m glad that it is happening, certifications are not worth a lot if you can hold one without actually understanding what you have learnt….

Thanks,
Ayden Beeson

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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Work experience in networking/telecoms/DCs? Getting my foot in the door?

That's my one of my favourite interview questions.

"Whats your favourite routing protocol?"

There only wrong answer is reading a line from a textbook, if you love RIP tell me why you love RIP! What's good about it? What's bad about it?

On 23 December 2014 at 08:58, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com<mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
Yup.. had about a dozen last year.  And then even if they do have good theoretical knowledge, the other thing missing is experience, common sense and product knowledge.  Being a CCIE/NP and not being able to recommend a switch model is annoying (for me).


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On 23 December 2014 at 08:54, Peter Tiggerdine <ptiggerdine at gmail.com<mailto:ptiggerdine at gmail.com>> wrote:
I think we've all being in that interview (or heard second hand) with a textbook CCIE and when pressed can't seem to explain the simple things.

experience is where it's at.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Scott Weeks <surfer at mauigateway.com<mailto:surfer at mauigateway.com>> wrote:


--- Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com<mailto:Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com> wrote:
From: Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com<mailto:Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com>>

Then I would have a look at real work experience,
not certification boot camps..
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I wish more folks did this instead of starting off
interviews with cert-style questions, which seem to
only test rote memorization skills.

scott









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