[AusNOG] Work experience in networking/telecoms/DCs? Getting my foot in the door?

Tue Dec 23 21:06:42 EST 2014

@Nathan: Yep, that one with port-channel is a big hole too :)

@Phill: I was thinking about it, but at the end, I bought a used server and
now using CSR1000v on it instead.

199USD (yearly renewal subscription) and Cisco capped it at 15 Cisco nodes
is too steep for me I guess. One of the better feature I guess is the
ability to simulate NX-OS.

Regards,
Andy

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Phill Proud <phillproud at gmail.com> wrote:

> It probably deserves its own thread, but the virtual labs in the re-vamped
> practicals are now using what is now commercially available as Cisco VIRL.
> I’ve got it up and running recently but haven’t had time to put it through
> it’s paces yet.
>
> It’s a bit cleaner than the newer GNS3 releases but no layer 2 yet (though
> it appears that L2IOU has been used in it, references exist in the config
> files).
>
> Has anyone else started labbing with VIRL?
>
> Phill
>
> On 23 Dec 2014, at 5:52 pm, Nathan Brookfield <
> Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au> wrote:
>
>  You just gave me shudders with the memories of that one Andy, I've seen
> that happen on a very big network, my favorite though is adding VLAN's to
> an ether channel port directly and not to the port-channel directly 'sigh'.
>
> Kindest Regards,
> Nathan Brookfield
>
> Chief Executive Officer
> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
>
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> On 23 Dec 2014, at 20:49, Andy S. <ciscoarc7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   I think they have revamped their CCIE now (version 5) which I am
> gunning (slowly) towards.
>
>  One of their bigger change is replacing Frame Relay with DMVPN. Also it
> is now virtualised and I read it somewhere according to Cisco, it enables
> them to do 20-ish routers (always changing) topology and can make it more
> to "real-world".
>
>  This hopefully enough to iron out those textbook CCIEs.
>
>  I just remember one of my mate told a story about one particular CCIE
> doing "switchport trunk allowed vlan xxx" instead of "switchport trunk
> allowed vlan add xxx" and caused an outage. Companies losing money
> (according to him. It's a stock trading company). Though it's weird they
> needed more time to address where the issue was.
>
>  Regards,
> Andy
>
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Michael Wheeler <
> michael at michael-wheeler.org> wrote:
>
>> Hopefully their exam simulation stuff improves. Twice now I've done an
>> exam and you do something slightly unexpected that's not covered by the
>> text book (but would satisfy the question requirements) and the simulation
>> completely breaks. And not in the since of the network stops working, the
>> actual simulation software does things that just repeats the same command
>> over and over again without letting you enter in any input. Naturally the
>> exam moderator where I do my exams doesn't even know how a router is meant
>> to react nor knows how to tell Cisco that their sim is faulty so I get a
>> failed exam and down a bunch of my own money. In the end I just rote
>> memorized the solution off some website command for command so that the
>> friggin sim wouldn't crash. Yes I feel dirty doing it that way which is why
>> after that cert I haven't done any exams (even though I covered the
>> material).
>>
>>  Interested to see the future of network/communications qualifications...
>>
>> On 23 December 2014 at 17:12, Beeson, Ayden <ABeeson at csu.edu.au> wrote:
>>
>>>  On the topic, Cisco have identified textbook CCIE’s as an issue, they
>>> are in the process of redoing all their certification tests to better align
>>> with real world skills, with a lot more simulations and lab tests and a lot
>>> less multiple choice etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know the CCNP TSHOOT exam has been redone as all simulation situations
>>> with real equipment configurations etc, I know CCNP SWITCH and ROUTE were
>>> pending the changeover when I last did any of them (a year ago roughly)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think it’s a very good idea and I’m glad that it is happening,
>>> certifications are not worth a lot if you can hold one without actually
>>> understanding what you have learnt….
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ayden Beeson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Cameron
>>> Ferdinands
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 December 2014 6:05 PM
>>> *To:* Skeeve Stevens
>>> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Work experience in networking/telecoms/DCs?
>>> Getting my foot in the door?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's my one of my favourite interview questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Whats your favourite routing protocol?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There only wrong answer is reading a line from a textbook, if you love
>>> RIP tell me why you love RIP! What's good about it? What's bad about it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 December 2014 at 08:58, Skeeve Stevens <
>>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yup.. had about a dozen last year.  And then even if they do have good
>>> theoretical knowledge, the other thing missing is experience, common sense
>>> and product knowledge.  Being a CCIE/NP and not being able to recommend a
>>> switch model is annoying (for me).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>>
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>>>
>>> On 23 December 2014 at 08:54, Peter Tiggerdine <ptiggerdine at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think we've all being in that interview (or heard second hand) with a
>>> textbook CCIE and when pressed can't seem to explain the simple things.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> experience is where it's at.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Scott Weeks <surfer at mauigateway.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com wrote:
>>> From: Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com>
>>>
>>> Then I would have a look at real work experience,
>>> not certification boot camps..
>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> I wish more folks did this instead of starting off
>>> interviews with cert-style questions, which seem to
>>> only test rote memorization skills.
>>>
>>> scott
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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