[AusNOG] Netflix, AWS and Softlayer vs. Australia

[Jake Anderson]

NBNco don't need to do anything per end user for billing, just per RSP.
They could bill RSP's per GB rather than per Mbps. Its up to the RSP's 
then to share that out amongst their users how they see fit.
Just monitor the bytes passed through the interface in the POI and job 
done. (see how easy it was to say that lol)

I'd be surprised if they didn't already monitor per customer volumes 
anyway at some level, knowing how many end users are on which splitter 
and how much data they are pushing at what time would be important to 
balance congestion. IE the case of 15 heavy users all on the one 
splitter, you can shuffle those users onto different splitters in the 
one FDH so they don't tread on each others toes.

It wouldn't be such a big thing to monitor either, I mean they don't 
need netflows or anything that detailed just bytes per interval per 
user, its not a small dataset but then they aren't a small company either.

I can see a split model perhaps working, allow for either per mbit or 
per GByte billing I don't know offhand how you would create that package 
but anything that adds some flexibility doesn't seem like a bad thing to 
discuss.



On 05/12/14 11:54, Paul Brooks wrote:
> However, this would require NBNCo to have a full billing system and traffic measuring
> system for each customer tail to record and bill by usage. For every NBN tail in the
> country.
> It also requires NBNCo to have the ability to implement its own unilateral throttling
> system when a customer tail goes over its data quota, independent of any recourse to
> the RSP servicing that customer.
>
> Think of the load and cost increase on RSP call-centres when NBNCo throttles links and
> RSP doesn't know about it yet.
>
> Thats a big data usage collection and recording system, and variable billing system to
> send per-end-user traffic measurements every day/week/month to the ISPs for the ISPs
> to include in their billing/traffic plan systems (and notification systems for 'you
> have approached 50% of your quota' per TCP Code). Big investment by each and every RSP
> to incorporate this data into their own traffic and billing management systems.
>
> Currently, NBNCo doesn't need anything like this, to do unchanging price-per-month
> invoicing to the ISPs based on what was ordered at start-of-contract, not what was
> used - and the RSPs billing and IT processing systems also stay much simpler.
>
> I'd love to see the analysis redone for the increased billing, traffic measurement and
> customer-service costs in both wholesalers and retailers before anyone tries to
> implement wholesaler-measuring of traffic data usage volumes.
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> On 5/12/2014 11:37 AM, Mark Andrews wrote:
>> The brings us back to the NBN and the artificial limits on link
>> speed.  This skewed the cost benefit analysis by introducing
>> willingness to pay for speed.  Many of the benefits of a fibre
>> network come from having the high speed available when you need it.
>> Most people don't need high speed most of the time.  It doesn't
>> cost anymore to provide the last mile at full speed.  The system
>> just needs price feedback to avoid abuse.  That feedback doesn't
>> have to be done as link speed.
>>
>> I'd love to see the analysis redone where everyone on fibre had the
>> full link speed available to them but there were monthly volume
>> limits included.
>>
>> Mark
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