[AusNOG] CloudFlare: The Relative Cost of Bandwidth Around the World

Wed Aug 27 00:36:21 EST 2014

What about PIPE IX? and PPC-1? A few years ago? PIPE was founded in
2001. Joe's been doing a fantastic job at WAIA too.

There's still several networks in AUS that don't peer either or only
present at a single location. (not GoF), including some big big
content providers.

$200mbit ? Hardly, those numbers were clearly pulled out of somewhere.
I also highly doubt they don't participate in paid peering agreements
in other regions too. This article is junk.

On 27 August 2014 00:15, Wolfgang Nagele (AusRegistry)
<wolfgang.nagele at ausregistry.com.au> wrote:
> Australia is making huge strides towards better interconnection. A few years
> ago there was almost no Internet Exchange capacity in use but rather
> capacity was bought via transit. Nowadays you have Megaport and WAIA present
> in most states and there is a lot of content exchanged via these platforms.
>
> Fixing Telstra by regulation is a whole different story ...
>
> On 8/27/14, 12:08 AM, "Ben Grubb" <bgrubb at fairfaxmedia.com.au> wrote:
>
> Sure but there's hardly been any discussion of late on this and the impact
> it has on the Australian market.
>
> Net neutrality has barely rated a mention in Australia since 2008.  Combine
> it with NBN Co's CVC charge and it's not looking like Australia will become
> attractive for content players at all. Do we want that?
>
> Regards,
> Ben Grubb
>
>
> On 27 August 2014 00:06, Wolfgang Nagele (AusRegistry)
> <wolfgang.nagele at ausregistry.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> Just look into Netflix + <insert large eyeball network name here> in the
>> US. It’s not an Australian thing. It’s been the “war” between eyeball
>> networks and content for a while.
>>
>> On 8/27/14, 12:04 AM, "Ben Grubb" <bgrubb at fairfaxmedia.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> Sure. Doesn't make it right though.
>>
>> When talking about the Australian market though are there others besides
>> Telstra using similar tactics?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ben Grubb
>>
>>
>> On 27 August 2014 00:02, Wolfgang Nagele (AusRegistry)
>> <wolfgang.nagele at ausregistry.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> Simply not true that Telstra is the only one doing this. Deutsche Telekom
>>> has been known to use the same practice for now decades. Swisscom, same
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> All of the Gorillas are doing this. Sadly.
>>>
>>> On 8/26/14, 11:35 PM, "Ben Grubb" <bgrubb at fairfaxmedia.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm planning on writing about this guys for the SMH. Matt at CloudFlare
>>> gave me the heads up earlier.
>>>
>>> If anyone feels like ranting to me about this, drop me a line :)
>>>
>>> It's really interesting IMO, especially considering it's in Telstra's
>>> best interest with its 50% stake in Foxtel to keep content players like
>>> Netflix away. Only way to do that is by charging them ridiculous transit
>>> fees.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ben Grubb
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 August 2014 23:30, James Andrewartha <trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://blog.cloudflare.com/the-relative-cost-of-bandwidth-around-the-world
>>>> via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8226654
>>>>
>>>> "Australia is the most expensive region in which we operate, but for an
>>>> interesting reason. We peer with virtually every ISP in the region
>>>> except
>>>> one: Telstra. Telstra, which controls approximately 50% of the market,
>>>> and
>>>> was traditionally the monopoly telecom provider, charges some of the
>>>> highest transit pricing in the world — 20x the benchmark ($200/Mbps)."
>>>>
>>>> Not quite news, but it's still interesting to see the relative numbers.
>>>>
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