[AusNOG] metadata conference on SkyNews

[Peter Tiggerdine]

In residential terms it still has to come from an authenticated hop like a
PPPOE session which generally means radius logs with DHCPv6-PD which again
creates logs.

If them FUD mongers get their way, we should just log to AWS Glacier and
make the government pay the retrieval costs[1].

[1] Yes I realise is doesn't work this way, but why should ISP and our
customer pay for a legislation that isn't going to stop one threat.




On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Mike Taylor <mtaylor at totalteam.co.nz>
wrote:

>  I was going to say;
>
> With IPv6 - you allocate a prefix, not an IP address, so perhaps 'Your
> argument is invalid' might apply in that situation?
>
> (not you Mark, the lawmakers)
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
>  On 11/08/14 13:49, Mark Newton wrote:
>
>
>  On Aug 11, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Beeson, Ayden <ABeeson at csu.edu.au> wrote:
>
>  +1 this. Though they deny it, the user -> IP listing is the ONLY thing
> they don't have to start directly harassing people for Copyright
> infringement notices sent from the US media companies.
>
>
> Notwithstanding that they can never get a “user->IP” mapping, they can
> only get a subscriber->IP mapping.
>
>  This is something they know, having had their arses caned over it
> repeatedly in US courts, and having had the full bench of the High Court in
> Australia kick them in the face about it in AFACT v iiNet (so hard they had
> to change their name to recover their reputation. "AFACT? Who, us? We don’t
> know any AFACT…”)
>
>  It’s possible to pay someone to continue to believe things they know to
> be untrue, and that’s what we have with the copyright industry and our A-D,
> and so here we are. The fact that they earn their money by being
> professionally wrong doesn’t mean anyone else has to provide them with the
> benefit of any credibility.
>
>  Who here is making submissions to the copyright consultation that closes
> on 1 Sep?
>
>    - mark
>
>
>
>
>
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